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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 05-Jan-20 13:44:01
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Help with these stats sky Adsl.


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Router Statistics
System Up Time: 1990:13:33
Port Status TxPkts RxPkts Collision Pkts Tx b/s Rx b/s Up Time
WAN PPPoA 26700380 43872989 0 0 0 227:53:45
LAN Down 0 0 0 0 0 00:00:00
WLAN Up 400399932 271134292 0 8 6 141:27:40
Broadband Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed (Kbps) 4140 308
Line Attenuation (dB) 57.0 35.7
Noise Margin (dB) 11.4 6.2
Poll Interval:
Seconds (at least 3s):
Set Interval Stop

If i have a drop out or anytime i reboot the router these stats now never change regarding down 4140 and up
308. Does it look as though i am sort of capped by their line management tool?
I used to get 4.8mb down and 0.7 up because of a long line.
Around 3 months ago i had a number of drop outs during the day for around 2 weeks, and as coincedence we had the gas utility contractors digging up the roads on our estate mine included and laying new pipes.

Could that have been the reason for my drop outs as the green street cab is nearby. Before i get on to sky do my stats regarding same down/up figures which always stay the same suggest line capping?
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 05-Jan-20 15:08:24
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Re: Help with these stats sky Adsl.


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11.4db SNR doesn�t imply a cap, you�d expect maybe 6, 9, or 12db

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sun 05-Jan-20 15:18:46
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Re: Help with these stats sky Adsl.


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You'd expect the round figure, but some routers and the maths can result in odd figures showing, and the margin can drift over time.

NOTE: This looks to be ADSL2+ so its not just distance to the green cabinet but the 5 to 6km in total of wiring to the telephone exchange.

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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 05-Jan-20 15:32:28
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Re: Help with these stats sky Adsl.


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Fair point, so maybe seeing the SNR immediately after a resync ?

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 05-Jan-20 16:27:14
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Re: Help with these stats sky Adsl.


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In reply to a post by Zarjaz:
11.4db SNR doesn�t imply a cap, you�d expect maybe 6, 9, or 12db
Thought Sky used a 3db SNR on their ADSL products
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sun 05-Jan-20 17:17:15
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Re: Help with these stats sky Adsl.


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Possibly if the DLM is happy with the line. In this case there looks to be reason to believe the Sky DLM is not too happy. There ADSL2+ DLM has always favoured stability over speed.

If original poster can get a VDSL/FTTC (partial fibre) service then upgrading to that is a good idea assuming not 2 miles from green cabinet.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 05-Jan-20 20:02:55
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Re: Help with these stats sky Adsl.


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Speed Test Result


DOWNLOAD
2.7 Mbps

tbbx1 2.1 Mbps

bursting to 3.1 Mbps
0.02.04.0
x Single tbbx1 Speed httpx6 Speed
0 0 0
1,295 0.09
1,548 1.03
1,798 1.56
2,049 1.9
2,299 1.5
2,549 2.35
2,805 2.64
3,058 2.52
3,314 3.08
3,564 2.74
3,815 2.98
4,067 3.11
4,315 2.55
4,571 3.08
4,831 2.71
5,080 3.15
5,331 2.47
5,581 3.27
5,831 2.43
6,082 3.46
6,340 2.64
6,594 2.72
6,845 3.17
7,098 2.99
7,348 2.75
7,598 2.96
7,849 2.94
8,101 2.31
0 0
784 0.09
1,035 2.08
1,289 1.29
1,540 2.34
1,790 1.9
2,043 1.93
2,294 1.79
2,547 2.1
2,808 2.13
3,057 2.46
3,308 2.05
3,558 2.2
3,810 2.11
4,060 1.96
4,310 2.05
4,561 1.85
4,815 2.16
5,067 2.37
5,321 2.19
5,573 2.38
5,822 2.22
6,073 2.4
6,325 2.06
6,576 2.35
6,825 1.99
7,076 2.31
7,327 1.95
7,577 1.94
7,829 1.99
8,081 2.35
UPLOAD
0.00.10.2
x Up
0 0
1 0
2 0
3 0
773 0.07
1,389 0.09
2,342 0.1
3,371 0.1
4,339 0.11
5,325 0.11
6,220 0.12
7,042 0.13
0.1 Mbps

bursting to 0.1 Mbps
Your Latency: 129 ms
SSL

Just did the thinkbroadband test albeit on wifi but will do wired tomorrow
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 05-Jan-20 20:07:45
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Re: Help with these stats sky Adsl.


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Thanks.
I live very close to street cab, around 80 yards and checks said i can get full speed on a 76mb package from various providers.
Standard User JonRennie
(knowledge is power) Mon 06-Jan-20 08:49:27
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Re: Help with these stats sky Adsl.


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You look to be on an ADSL service, which as a previous poster said is not dependent on the distance to the green cab, but the distance to the exchange.

If you're close to the cab and want a better service you'd need to order an FTTC service from your (or another) provider,

wink Comms is hard wink
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 06-Jan-20 13:37:18
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Re: Help with these stats sky Adsl.


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In reply to a post by JonRennie:
You look to be on an ADSL service, which as a previous poster said is not dependent on the distance to the green cab, but the distance to the exchange.

If you're close to the cab and want a better service you'd need to order an FTTC service from your (or another) provider,

Yes i know its the distance from the exchange that is the reason for poor stats, and know fibre will be better choice living close to a street cab as i do.
I am on a offer at present from sky will started on 21st feb 2019, so not far off the 12 month end date now.

I have been on the phone to sky and they said i can get fibre for £27, thats more than double what i am paying now and for me have to keep the cost down as much as possible.
I do want fibre now and will have to search for the best deal i can find with good reviews if possible.

If i switch, when would be the best timing to avoid most costs, the present offer will end on 20 feb, but i will be paying full price 1 month before its up because its taken in advance i think.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 06-Jan-20 17:36:10
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Re: Help with these stats sky Adsl.


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Just looked at my future bills for my ADSL 4mb package.

From feb it goes to £27
From march it then goes to full price of £31, wow thats made my mind up to look around.
Standard User 4M2
(knowledge is power) Mon 06-Jan-20 17:43:00
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Re: Help with these stats sky Adsl.


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In reply to a post by boathouse:
I used to get 4.8mb down and 0.7 up because of a long line.
Around 3 months ago i had a number of drop outs during the day for around 2 weeks, and as coincedence we had the gas utility contractors digging up the roads on our estate mine included and laying new pipes.


Regarding migration to FTTC broadband and line rental: if there is an issue with the copper pair phone line from the cabinet to your premises it might be a good idea to go initially with an ISP with a good reputation for sorting out such problems. It may not be the cheapest deal though.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 06-Jan-20 19:02:57
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Re: Help with these stats sky Adsl.


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In reply to a post by 4M2:
In reply to a post by boathouse:
I used to get 4.8mb down and 0.7 up because of a long line.
Around 3 months ago i had a number of drop outs during the day for around 2 weeks, and as coincedence we had the gas utility contractors digging up the roads on our estate mine included and laying new pipes.


Regarding migration to FTTC broadband and line rental: if there is an issue with the copper pair phone line from the cabinet to your premises it might be a good idea to go initially with an ISP with a good reputation for sorting out such problems. It may not be the cheapest deal though.

Thanks.
I can see the logic but price is my concern i will have to weigh up, i admit i have been looking at talk talk and vodafone but others would probably not touch with a barge pole.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 16-Jan-20 14:10:42
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Re: Help with these stats sky Adsl.


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In reply to a post by JonRennie:
You look to be on an ADSL service, which as a previous poster said is not dependent on the distance to the green cab, but the distance to the exchange.

If you're close to the cab and want a better service you'd need to order an FTTC service from your (or another) provider,


Yes just signed up for fibre up to 76mbps, so hope things go smooth.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 20-Jan-20 16:34:18
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Re: Help with these stats sky Adsl.


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I just did a BT fibre check and it came back with this message.

ULTRAFAST FIBRE 100

Your download speed range
137Mb - 138Mb

Your Stay Fast Guarantee 100Mb
Upload speed range 14Mb - 26Mb.


So as i only live around 80 yards from the street cabinet, up to 76mb with Sky should be fairly close to be reached?
Once Sky fibre is up and running what are the most likley things that would stop me getting close to 76mb?
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 20-Jan-20 17:10:33
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Is that "fibre" FTTP or G.Fast? If it is G.Fast then you should get top speeds on VDSL but if it is FTTP then it is no indicator as FTTP doesn't come from the cab and isn't distance dependent.
Standard User wolvesmad
(knowledge is power) Mon 20-Jan-20 18:32:13
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TalkTalk are doing a 76mb deal at the moment.

Plusnet £70 cashback £27 a month.

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BT Fibre Unlimited 55|10Mb
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 20-Jan-20 18:55:13
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G.fast as believe the few with FTTP via Sky on the Openreach network are special cases or invite only trial lists or staff

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 20-Jan-20 21:40:48
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One thing it seems i have overlooked is that my filtered faceplate will not be suitable for VDSL fibre?

Its one of these'


https://www.adslnation.com/products/xte2005.php

Edited by deleted (Mon 20-Jan-20 21:42:58)

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(staff) Mon 20-Jan-20 21:55:43
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Should work perfectly well

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 20-Jan-20 22:11:17
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
Should work perfectly well


Ok great saves a few more quid as i thought i may have to get one of these.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VDSL2-ADSL-FILTERED-FACEP...
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