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Standard User Turnipfarmer
(learned) Thu 23-Jan-20 21:28:16
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My Fibre BB is connected at a slow speed - possible issue?


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Hey everyone.

Hope someone can help. I've recently been experiencing slow speeds and speed tests have confirmed this. I pay for 16-30mbs and falling way short of that with 12.5, 11 and 14.9.

Is there anyone that can look into this for me or what's best to do? I'm convinced there is a line issue.

Below is some information from my router.

Configured CurrentLine StatusLink TypeOperation Mode
-- UP
-- Fast Path
Automatic G.993.2 (VDSL2)
DATA RATE INFORMATIONUpstreamDownstream
4305 (Kbps)
14999 (Kbps)
DEFECT/FAILURE INDICATIONOperation Data Upstream DownstreamNoise MarginLine Attenuation
6.1 (dB) 11.9 (dB)
0.0 (dB) 27.4 (dB)

Indicator Name Near End Indicator Far End IndicatorOutput PowerFast Path FEC CorrectionInterleaved Path FEC CorrectionFast Path CRC ErrorInterleaved Path CRC ErrorLoss Of Signal DefectFast Path HEC Error STRInterleaved Path HEC ErrorError Seconds
6.9 (dBm) 6.9 (dBm)
433892 73
-- --
0 17398
-- --
1 0
0 2859
-- --
2736 74
STATISTICSReceived DataTransmitted Data
26873593 (Kbits)
7639932 (Kbits)

System Uptime is: 226:33:59

Featured ProductsDownstream Line Rate(Mbps)Upstream Line Rate(Mbps)Downstream Handback Threshold(Mbps)WBC FTTC Availability DateWBC SOGEA Availability DateLeft in Jumper High Low High Low Featured ProductsDownstream Line Rate(Mbps)Upstream Line Rate(Mbps)Downstream Range(Mbps)WBC FTTP Availability Date

ADSL ProductsDownstream Line Rate(Mbps)Upstream Line Rate(Mbps)Downstream Range(Mbps)Availability Date
Left in JumperObserved SpeedsVDSLOther Offerings


Availability Date

Premise environmentStatus

VDSL Range A (Clean) 33.3 20 7 4.6 16.7 Available Available --
VDSL Range B (Impacted) 32.6 18 6.9 4.2 14.2 Available Available --
FTTP on Demand 330 30 -- Available -- --
WBC ADSL 2+ Up to 1 -- 1 to 3 Available -- Yes
WBC ADSL 2+ Annex M Up to 1 Up to 0.5 1 to 3 Available -- Yes
ADSL Max Up to 0.75 -- 0.75 to 2.5 Available -- --
WBC Fixed Rate 1 -- -- Available -- Yes
Fixed Rate 1 -- -- Available -- --
Max Observed Downstream Speed (Mbps) 15
Max Upstream Observed Speed (Mbps) 4.3
Observed Date 2019-12-18
VDSL Multicast -- -- -- Available -- --
ADSL Multicast -- -- -- Available -- --
Bridge Tap N
VRI N
NTEFaceplate N
Last Test Date 09-01-2020
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 24-Jan-20 10:04:11
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Re: My Fibre BB is connected at a slow speed - possible issu


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The 14999 Kbps is just 1 Mbps outside the range and the range given on the wholesale checker fed by Openreach is not always correct.

The next step is try and figure out how far away you are from the cabinet, if you can private message your postcode I can use our Openreach model to look into this and see how far away you probably are.

You say the slow speeds are recent, were you getting a higher sync speed and speed tests previously, if so what sort of speeds. Any changes of broadband hardware?

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Standard User Turnipfarmer
(learned) Fri 24-Jan-20 13:04:03
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Standard User Turnipfarmer
(learned) Fri 24-Jan-20 13:10:04
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
The 14999 Kbps is just 1 Mbps outside the range and the range given on the wholesale checker fed by Openreach is not always correct.

The next step is try and figure out how far away you are from the cabinet, if you can private message your postcode I can use our Openreach model to look into this and see how far away you probably are.

You say the slow speeds are recent, were you getting a higher sync speed and speed tests previously, if so what sort of speeds. Any changes of broadband hardware?


No changes in hardware either.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 24-Jan-20 13:15:08
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Would have expected better speeds, you mention a hum in the PM, if that is present also when the modem is disconnected then this hum if likely also messing up the VDSL2 signal and the slower speeds

Also you say noticed this as HD video was dropping in quality, in theory with the 14 Mbps speed HD video should stream well, but if the line is seeing a lot of errors then your throughput may actually be worse at times as packets get resent to correct errors

Diagnostics wise

1. Noise when at test socket with just a phone connected
2. VDSL2 speeds using the test socket

Beyond that its down to ISP support to pick it up and deal with. Would help if you have some data on what speeds were like before the recent drop.

Entirely possible this is something like a waterlogged joint where the waterproofing is failing.

The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User Turnipfarmer
(learned) Fri 24-Jan-20 13:40:00
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
Would have expected better speeds, you mention a hum in the PM, if that is present also when the modem is disconnected then this hum if likely also messing up the VDSL2 signal and the slower speeds

Also you say noticed this as HD video was dropping in quality, in theory with the 14 Mbps speed HD video should stream well, but if the line is seeing a lot of errors then your throughput may actually be worse at times as packets get resent to correct errors

Diagnostics wise

1. Noise when at test socket with just a phone connected
2. VDSL2 speeds using the test socket

Beyond that its down to ISP support to pick it up and deal with. Would help if you have some data on what speeds were like before the recent drop.

Entirely possible this is something like a waterlogged joint where the waterproofing is failing.


Yes I had the router disconnected at the time and the hiss and mains hum was there through the test socket. I'm gonna plug the router into test socket shortly and post the numbers up here for you to look at.

Yeah I'm bit disappointed I didn't know what speeds I was getting before, I'll check to see if I had any screen shots or historical speedtests saved and let you know.

The mains hum is only very slight and you do have to listen carefully but it's there. When you say waterlogged joint, where in theory could that be on the line? In the house or the line to the exchange?

My ISP and phone provider is EE, I hope they fix this issue.
Standard User Turnipfarmer
(learned) Fri 24-Jan-20 13:46:27
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Re: My Fibre BB is connected at a slow speed - possible issu


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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
Would have expected better speeds, you mention a hum in the PM, if that is present also when the modem is disconnected then this hum if likely also messing up the VDSL2 signal and the slower speeds

Also you say noticed this as HD video was dropping in quality, in theory with the 14 Mbps speed HD video should stream well, but if the line is seeing a lot of errors then your throughput may actually be worse at times as packets get resent to correct errors

Diagnostics wise

1. Noise when at test socket with just a phone connected
2. VDSL2 speeds using the test socket

Beyond that its down to ISP support to pick it up and deal with. Would help if you have some data on what speeds were like before the recent drop.

Entirely possible this is something like a waterlogged joint where the waterproofing is failing.


Just tried logging into speedtest and had only two speed tests recorded.

Here is the link but they are faster than what I'm getting now so it's got worse in last 2-3 years.

https://www.speedtest.net/results?sh=53ee038f9c59aa3...
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 24-Jan-20 14:05:01
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The problem could be anywhere between you and cabinet.

Over to ISP to get the Openreach people out to look at things.

The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User Turnipfarmer
(learned) Fri 24-Jan-20 14:20:47
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
The problem could be anywhere between you and cabinet.

Over to ISP to get the Openreach people out to look at things.


OK, I presume I am better off saying there is noise on the line rather than mentioning its a broadband issue?

Stats when router connected to test socket, not much has changed but I will leave it connected for bit longer to see if anything changes.

STATUS
Configured Current
Line Status -- UP
Link Type -- Fast Path
Operation Mode Automatic G.993.2 (VDSL2)
DATA RATE INFORMATION
Upstream 4447 (Kbps)
Downstream 14999 (Kbps)
DEFECT/FAILURE INDICATION
Operation Data Upstream Downstream
Noise Margin 6.1 (dB) 12.0 (dB)
Line Attenuation 0.0 (dB) 27.3 (dB)

Indicator Name Near End Indicator Far End Indicator
Output Power 6.9 (dBm) 6.9 (dBm)
Fast Path FEC Correction 4893 0
Interleaved Path FEC Correction -- --
Fast Path CRC Error 0 412
Interleaved Path CRC Error -- --
Loss Of Signal Defect 0 0
Fast Path HEC Error STR 0 61
Interleaved Path HEC Error -- --
Error Seconds 1 0
STATISTICS
Received Data 1464792 (Kbits)
Transmitted Data 339837 (Kbits)
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 24-Jan-20 16:04:30
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if the noise is obvious during a phone call when no broadband kit is connected then that is one way to go, its very much a toss of the random number generator of choice.

The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
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