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Standard User broadbandjockey
(member) Sun 08-Mar-20 17:27:24
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BT16A Junction Box


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Can someone give me a potted history of how on earth BT ended up using such an awful design junction box ?

I recently moved house, and I noticed the front of the junction box had fallen off. As part of a refurb (I took the whole roof off and put on a new one) I took the drop wire down, and put it back up again, and replaced the BT16A with a new one obtained on ebay.

Last week I noticed the same had happened to my mother's BT16A. I replaced it this morning.

In both cases the plastic hinge had decayed, presumably through UV exposure, and then it's only a matter of time for the lid to fall off.

Googling the matter, there also appears to be some poor soul who noticed theirs had suffered a similar fate, and Openreach charged them 144 quid to replace it ! Eh, isn't it upstream of the master socket, and therefore no concern of the end user ?

Anyway, GPO/BT plant is usually well designed, and bomb proof, so what went wrong with this item ?

Edited by broadbandjockey (Sun 08-Mar-20 17:29:57)

Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 08-Mar-20 20:22:53
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Re: BT16A Junction Box


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They were rolled out without testing the plastics ability to withstand UV.

They haven�t been in use as new for many (10+) years ...

Not really surprising yours from eBay was pants, its archaic.

An under eaves closure or a BT66 are what is used these days.

Standard User broadbandjockey
(member) Sun 08-Mar-20 20:40:14
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Re: BT16A Junction Box


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In reply to a post by Zarjaz:
They were rolled out without testing the plastics ability to withstand UV.

They haven�t been in use as new for many (10+) years ...

Not really surprising yours from eBay was pants, its archaic.

An under eaves closure or a BT66 are what is used these days.


It's a shame they don't make a white BT66, or a smaller version of it. I toyed with replacing mine with a 66, but it would have been a shade too obtrusive on my facia. Perhaps when the lid falls off again, there'll be something smaller and more suitable. The ebay boxes I bought had the 1980s BT 'T' logo


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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 08-Mar-20 20:57:09
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Re: BT16A Junction Box


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The �preferred� method is a closure cable tied to the dropwire clamp.

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 09-Mar-20 08:37:10
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Sorry to say, the best place for a BT16A is a museum.
Standard User Ancient_Mariner
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 13-Mar-20 22:19:09
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Can you "see" a BT66 when testing with a reflectometer from the Master Socket? If so, is there any impact on VDSL compared to an unjointed dropwire?

Cheers!

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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 14-Mar-20 16:26:13
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No, the BT66 is just a housing for the joint(s) inside ....

If the crimps are good, and there�s no change in conductor type size, then a TDR shouldn�t see the connection. To that end, there should be no impact.

(yes, I�d prefer a dropwire to be straight from DP to NTE, but that is an ideal, rose tinted view)

Standard User Ancient_Mariner
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 14-Mar-20 18:37:27
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Many thanks Zarjaz.

Cheers!

Clive

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Standard User giggsy1977
(member) Thu 19-Mar-20 15:05:28
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Zarjaz - do you know which junction box this is as it doesn't seem to be a 16 or 66?

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Standard User giggsy1977
(member) Thu 19-Mar-20 15:06:04
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How do I upload a pic?!

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