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Standard User cupis
(regular) Sun 11-Mar-07 14:17:56
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[re: Garyilka] [link to this post]
 
6db is the target for MAX products - trying to get the most out of your line. Higher than 6db means you have a higher margin - maybe you are close enough to easily get 8Mbps, maybe your line has a higher target due to instability issues, maybe you are not on MAX.
Standard User Garyilka
(experienced) Sun 11-Mar-07 14:28:01
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I'm definitely on max and I have 6db. I think that was my point - that 6db is the target. The poster that I responded to was suggesting that is was not??


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 11-Mar-07 15:01:21
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The 6db is the default target, but quite commonly the target noise margin may be higher, e.g. 9db, 12db, 15db for noisier lines.


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 11-Mar-07 19:28:52
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Disagree all you want. ADSL is my job.

6dB is the standard margin target on a MAX line. MAX will aim at the best speed for a margin of 6dB. If it gets 8meg, then there will most likely be some spare margin & the router/modem will show this.

If the line has problems, noise, dropouts, etc, then BT will set the margin target higher, 9dB, 12dB, or 15dB & hence the downstream speed will be slower than a 6dB margin.



Standard User briancbb
(newbie) Sun 11-Mar-07 20:51:15
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Thanks all of you. I guess i have learnt something the hard way :-)

I will bend to more knowlegable people. Thanks for putting me right, I'd better not believe everything I read on the internet or maybe I interpreted it incorrectly. At my age that is very easy to do!

Hope my post has not mislead anyone.

Brian
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 11-Mar-07 22:44:05
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It only goes over 6dB, if the line is in sync at 8meg & has margin to spare or BT has forced a higher margin due to problems.



What happens if your router has an uptime of over 14 days on the standard 6 dB default setting?

My uptime is just over 11 days.

I hope that my SNR isn't reduced to 3 dB as, with my attenuation (53 dB), my router couldn't cope!
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 11-Mar-07 22:47:46
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I reckon it will stay at around 6db, as that is the default and generally lowest target noise margin. I wouldn't worry
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 11-Mar-07 22:56:45
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I reckon it will stay at around 6db, as that is the default and generally lowest target noise margin. I wouldn't worry



Thanks for that mate as I was a little concerned as last time when I asked to have my SNR raised to 9 dB (I wasn't using the SpeedTouch 585 back then which seems to manage my long line a lot better than my old Billion router ever did), after around 18 days I woke one morning to find that my SNR was back on the default 6 dB setting.

I know that even my 585 wouldn't be able to cope with a 3 dB setting as my SNR usually drops to 4 dB in the evenings on 6 dB (default setting)!
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 11-Mar-07 23:17:44
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If it's stable at 6dB then it should be ok. Mine runs for weeks at 6dB without dropping sync & has been know to drop to 4dB for days without problems.


Standard User buggerlugz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 11-Mar-07 23:37:30
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Its a lack of bandwidth at entanet, this weekends been pretty bad at times. I've seen it dip below 100kb/s and i'm sync'd at 7776kbps.
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