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Standard User ElCod
(newbie) Sat 17-Mar-07 15:01:28
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No BT master socket (NTE5)


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I don't have a BT master socket in my flat, instead the line to the extensions is hardwired into an old BT 52A screw connector block (http://www.telephonesuk.co.uk/images/52a.jpg). I've tried calling 150 to ask them if I can get an NTE5 fitted but the operator in the Indian call centre couldn't tell me anything and couldn't get into their system properly to check.

I'm currently with Nildram and my router shows the following line info:

ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 8128 kbps 448 kbps
Line Attenuation 16 db 5 db
Noise Margin 13 db 22 db

A thinkadslbroadguideband speed test gives Speed Down: 5639.92 Kbps Speed Up: 376.86 Kbps.

I was just wondering if having an NTE5 fitted would improve my connection speed. I only live about 1 - 1.2 km from my exchange (Sydenham, SE London). Is there a charge from BT for fitting the socket?

I'll be changing to be*unlimited after payday, would a proper socket affect the available ADSL2 speed?

Thanks in advance.
Regards,

El Cod
Standard User pitnicker
(knowledge is power) Sat 17-Mar-07 15:28:41
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Re: No BT master socket (NTE5)


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Looks like your router is synced at full speed and it is issues other than your line which are limiting your throughput. What router do you have and how do you connect to it [ethernet, usb or wireless]? Your ISP?

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Standard User kingbaz
(newbie) Sat 17-Mar-07 15:40:55
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Re: No BT master socket (NTE5)


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A friend had a similar problem no BTt box and this is where he got the information to deal with this issue.
And as a newbie as far as your connection i would surmise that removing you ext wiring from the incoming line is a good idea
you can see here www.readman.dsl.pipex.com/other/UKphonecatwiring.htm


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Standard User ElCod
(newbie) Sat 17-Mar-07 16:00:33
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Re: No BT master socket (NTE5)


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I'm with Nildram (Broadband2). I connect to a Netgear DG834 (V3.01.25 firmware) by 1m RJ45 then a 1m RJ11 to an ADSLNation XTF-68 filter socket into which my telephone also plugs. The socket is on an extension which is about 4m long with an unfiltered socket about halfway along that has the Sky box plugged in using an external filter.

Edit: the extension is CW1308 cable that I installed myself.

Edited by ElCod (Sat 17-Mar-07 16:02:55)

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 17-Mar-07 18:00:23
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Re: No BT master socket (NTE5)


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If you can get past the Indian call centre, and through a few layers, you'll eventually get an English voice and probably persuade them to install an NTE5 for free. That's what I was able to do. The magic incantation (gleaned from here) seemed to be "I need to do some extension wiring and have nothing to connect to", combined with a polite "can I speak to your supervisor" a few times. Best not to mention ADSL, seems to frighten the natives.
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(deleted) Sat 17-Mar-07 18:06:36
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Re: No BT master socket (NTE5)


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Keep trying if you really want an NTE5.

Although you're connecting at the full speed, and have a good noise margin, so lower speed results will be down to exchange congestion or ISP congestion.
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(deleted) Sat 17-Mar-07 18:59:51
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Re: No BT master socket (NTE5)


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Getting an NTE5 fitted wont make any difference in itself. Even fitting a filtered faceplate like the BT ADSL V1.0 or ADSL nation one probably wont make it any better even if you have any extension wiring.
Have you removed the ring wire (3) from any extensions?
If you really want one I have one spare and will do it for a small fee
Standard User ElCod
(newbie) Sun 18-Mar-07 08:52:37
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Re: No BT master socket (NTE5)


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Thanks for the help everyone.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 18-Mar-07 11:02:37
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Re: No BT master socket (NTE5)


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Fitting a filtered faceplate will help, as long as you don't run any unfiltered (i.e. ADSL) extensions from it. You should connect the router directly to the faceplate, and run ethernet (Cat5) back to the PC('s).
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(deleted) Sun 18-Mar-07 20:58:34
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Re: No BT master socket (NTE5)


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Fitting a filtered faceplate may help
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