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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Sat 24-Mar-07 16:42:13
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Re: Test Socket different than Master


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will this interfere with ordinary telephone calls?


not if your filters are all present and correct.

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Standard User cahaddras
(experienced) Sat 24-Mar-07 16:57:24
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not if your filters are all present and correct.


Some cheaper filters don't regenerate the ring wire, but instead just pass it straight through.
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Sat 24-Mar-07 19:00:19
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Some cheaper filters don't regenerate the ring wire, but instead just pass it straight through.


that's covered by the "correct" bit - such filters don't comply with the BT SIN requirements.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 25-Mar-07 11:26:40
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Getting a 2uF non-electrolytic capacitor into something the size of two sugar cubes can be a challenge in the cheaper filters, so they either don't fit one at all, or they fit a lower value capacitor
Standard User cahaddras
(experienced) Sun 25-Mar-07 11:56:40
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Re: Test Socket different than Master


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such filters don't comply with the BT SIN requirements.


Sorry, but I just checked SIN346 and it allows for the bell wire to be filtered or recreated.

Edited by cahaddras (Sun 25-Mar-07 11:57:08)

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 25-Mar-07 12:01:05
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Not wanting to drift too far off thread but would it be possible for one of us to make up a super-dooper bandpass filter for this purpose, given unlimited space?
Mike.
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Sun 25-Mar-07 12:15:06
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Re: Test Socket different than Master


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but the SIN does not allow for it to "but instead just pass it straight through" as you described.

Edit: granted a filtered ring wire would comply but need the ring wire to work for many phones, are there any filtered ring wire examples in the wild ?

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Edited by yarwell (Sun 25-Mar-07 12:16:51)

Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Sun 25-Mar-07 12:17:34
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do you have the gear to assess the effectiveness of filters ?

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 25-Mar-07 12:21:28
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Scope and audio sig genny.
That should do?

Guess there are some circuits out there for the ultimate filter?

Mike.
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Sun 25-Mar-07 12:25:37
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have you looked at
http://www.adslnation.com/support/filters.php
http://www.sinet.bt.com/346v2p6.pdf

It would be interesting to see what your scope sees on a ring wire, for example, as well as on an incoming pair without the aDSL on.

Measuring the ADSL signal levels on the phone side of a microfilter would also be interesting to see if there is a performance variation between designs.

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