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Standard User chacker
(newbie) Tue 20-May-08 16:50:56
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Upstream Bandwidth Issues


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Hi,

I have had BT Broadband for about a year and was getting speeds of 4-5Mb/s down and anything from 300-500Kb/s up. Then a couple of months ago, I was experiencing intermittent connection problems. This would happen several times an hour sometimes. BT said that because I was using a third-party router, it must be a fault with the router because there was no fault on the line.

So I changed back to my BT Home Hub. Now I don't get the connection problems but my connection speeds are much slower. I now get about 1.8Mb/s down stream which isn't great but I can live with that. The big problem though is with up stream. This has dropped to 64Kbps!!

BT still will not admit that there is a problem on the line. They have performed line tests which come back negative. They also have said that because the down stream speed is above 1.5Mb/s they do not consider this to be a problem. I have said that the down stream b/width is not my issue - it is up stream. The last thing I was told to do today was plug my Home Hub into the master test socket and see if the bandwidth increases. So far it hasn't.

I have unplugged all other devices from the phone line and plugged the router directly into the test socket and have not seen any difference. I have also changed the micro filter (4 times) which hasn't changed anything either.

Coincidently (or not...), when BT ran a line test, both upstream and downstream speeds increased to the levels I had previously experienced. Then after about 8 hours, it dropped back down to the present speed.

This is the ADSL Line Status from the router:
Uptime: 0 days, 1:52:04
Modulation: G.992.1 annex A
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 64 / 1,856
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/MB]: 2.82 / 9.39
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 10.5 / 17.0
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 28.5 / 55.0
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 2.0 / 15.0
Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / TSTC
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): 0
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 157
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 6
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 6
Line Profile: Interleaved

I don't pretend that I fully understand what most of this stuff means but I'm pretty sure the SN Margin for up stream should be more than 2.0...

Can anybody help?
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Wed 21-May-08 11:09:16
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Re: Upstream Bandwidth Issues


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the implication is that there is a lot of noise on the line in the upstream frequency range. This could be at your end eg a dodgy TV or power supply on something, or it could be somewhere along the line or it may be a line fault or a faulty DSLAM card.

The upstream attenuation looks OK, you'll have to have them send a broadband engineer to investigate.

Your other router probably couldn't even manage the 64k upstream hence the dropouts.

Phil

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 21-May-08 13:47:14
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Re: Upstream Bandwidth Issues


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Mmm - upstream speeds seem to becoming a common thing, is there something going on...

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 21-May-08 15:16:02
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Re: Upstream Bandwidth Issues


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I was thinking the same thing. Lot of it about, isn't there?

Oh, and if anyone has some Top Tips on mine, feel free to chip in! My thought is that the noises when syncing and hiss once synced point to a line fault.

Edited by deleted (Wed 21-May-08 15:16:31)

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 21-May-08 17:21:19
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Do you mean that there are more reports:

asking for an increase in upstream speeds?

or

noting interference in the upstream frequencies?
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 21-May-08 17:54:32
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The later

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Thu 22-May-08 08:00:08
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In reply to:

My thought is that the noises when syncing and hiss once synced point to a line fault.


Or a filtering problem or a hardware problem (both could be at either end). ADSL itself is inaudible.

Phil

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 22-May-08 09:09:31
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ADSL? Inaudible?

Not on my line.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 22-May-08 09:48:44
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ADSL starts above 25KHz which is inaudible to me.
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Thu 22-May-08 11:33:09
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ADSL is inaudible. You may be hearing audio frequencies produced by something in response to the ADSL, but you aren't hearing the ADSL.

Phil

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