Not quite what I meant, it won't be a 5 pair from you all the way back to the cab

I see so the black cable does not go all the way to the cabinet, how far is it likely to go?

I just remembered i lost my phone service a few years ago when the builders went through the cable, if this was not fixed properly or the wires not reconnected properly might that be causing my problems?

Do my experiments today rule out the power supply being a problem?

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Not quite what I meant, it won't be a 5 pair from you all the way back to the cab

I see so the black cable does not go all the way to the cabinet, how far is it likely to go?

I just remembered i lost my phone service a few years ago when the builders went through the cable, if this was not fixed properly or the wires not reconnected properly might that be causing my problems?

Do my experiments today rule out the power supply being a problem?

Who did the repair?

It was OR i think, if that's what they were called about 5 years ago

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Interesting the TT is not dropping today when in fact TT used to take the longest to sync up in the past, maybe the change to g.dmt has help there?

Possible, less frequency bands involved so could be faster to find a solution and may be less prone to interference.

To give you an update the OR engineer did allot of work this morning he was here over 2 hours and rewired all 3 lines he said all 3 lines had split pairs.

The lines are better but on checking after he had left the IDnet line still drops when the BT line is disconnected/connected. I did phone the engineer but he was out of the area and told me he was not allowed to come back because his van was tracked.

I will do my 3 line experiment later and post the picture to see if you still think there is a split pair.....

Would be interesting to see which pairs go where now.

Here is a link to a new slideshow for after this engineer visit

http://s1274.photobucket.com/user/kevcasson/slidesho...

It shows the results of my 3 line test and a picture of the broadband monitor on IDnet and BT, i can not monitor the TT line because it has a dynamic ip.

I will do another diagram of which wires are where tomorrow

Note the download speeds are all quite similar but why is there such a difference in the uploads?

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Note the download speeds are all quite similar but why is there such a difference in the uploads?

Different products. IDnet is on a 448 upload "Home" product, perhaps on 20CN rather than 21CN.

New pictures and diagram uploaded to the new slideshow

Only difference i see is the crimped connections to the BT box, the coloured connections to the BT and ID boxes are the same but i guess the white ones are different?

Also when the engineer first tested he put his phone tool into the BT connection and could here the noise of the router even though there was no router on that line, from then he knew there was a problem.

Please see my picture of the 2 line test i have done today

http://s1274.photobucket.com/user/kevcasson/slidesho...

Do you agree there is still crosstalk but only between the BT and ID lines now?

Looking when BT and ID are the only routers powered up

unplug/plug BT the ID line drops quickly as the DSL light is flashing on the BT router

unplug/plug ID the BT line takes longer to drop and only drops when the DSL light is solid and just as the internet light starts flashing on the ID router.

From that can you tell me which line is wired wrong or could it still be both lines wired up wrong?