Technical Discussion
  >> Technical Issues


Register (or login) on our website and you will not see this ad.


Pages in this thread: 1 | [2] | (show all)   Print Thread
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 04-Feb-14 23:57:42
Print Post

Re: Interferences only at first minutes of connection?


[re: MHC] [link to this post]
 
No doubt by scientists, but not by router manufacturers, as this typical one here:
In reply to a post by Loading:
SNR Margin (0.1 dB): 22 70
Attenuation (0.1 dB): 635 315
Output Power (0.1 dBm): 161 124
Tho' not as accurate as I imagined; only to the nearest CeeBees grin.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC

Edited by XRaySpeX (Wed 05-Feb-14 00:15:20)

Standard User MHC
(sensei) Wed 05-Feb-14 00:51:39
Print Post

Re: Interferences only at first minutes of connection?


[re: XRaySpeX] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:
No doubt by scientists, but not by router manufacturers, as this typical one here:
In reply to a post by Loading:
SNR Margin (0.1 dB): 22 70
Attenuation (0.1 dB): 635 315
Output Power (0.1 dBm): 161 124
Tho' not as accurate as I imagined; only to the nearest CeeBees grin.


That is because they either do not understand the concept of Bels and deciBels &c or they cannot be bothered to code correctly to change the reported figure into dBs ...



Would you define a length in terms of 0.1cm units or would you use mm ?


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

M H C


taurus excreta cerebrum vincit
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 05-Feb-14 01:54:55
Print Post

Re: Interferences only at first minutes of connection?


[re: konrado5] [link to this post]
 
You don't have a line fault. If your aeroplane is steady in the air, but the altimeter needle is all over the place, what would you do?

Have you tried a different modem? The upstream snr is retrieved by the modem from the ATU-C using the extended operations channel. I've seen modems before suffer various glitches in this operation - one popular model flashes zero at regular intervals for example.


Register (or login) on our website and you will not see this ad.

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 05-Feb-14 02:19:34
Print Post

Re: Interferences only at first minutes of connection?


[re: MHC] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by MHC:
More often called centiBels !
In reply to a post by MHC:
That is because they either do not understand the concept of Bels and deciBels
They are bels, decibels and centibels, actually.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 05-Feb-14 12:13:08
Print Post

Re: Interferences only at first minutes of connection?


[re: konrado5] [link to this post]
 
Bit swaping can and does change the SNR margin displayed, but how much will depend on the bins played with and the algorithm for how the SNR margin is displayed

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Wed 05-Feb-14 18:33:43
Print Post

Re: Interferences only at first minutes of connection?


[re: deleted] [link to this post]
 
You don't have a line fault. If your aeroplane is steady in the air, but the altimeter needle is all over the place, what would you do?

Sound advice.

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 05-Feb-14 18:35:34
Print Post

Re: Interferences only at first minutes of connection?


[re: Zarjaz] [link to this post]
 
But then given how many people end up following a GPS blindly many seem to believe the computer rather than employ some common sense, or heaven forbid look at a road sign

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Wed 05-Feb-14 20:34:07
Print Post

Re: Interferences only at first minutes of connection?


[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
Yep, I'd agree with that too, you don't learn nowt following a sat-nav.

Pages in this thread: 1 | [2] | (show all)   Print Thread

Jump to