Thanks, Deepinsight.

That starts to make a lot more sense.

To enlarge upon it.

The Mains Supply could originate under the the Pink Round Cover and connect directly to the 3-way Terminal Block - on a 2 wire, Live and Neutral only basis.

That (probably-) live feed is then taken through the shorter, upper, horizontal cable, under the White Round Box, to the Bell Push outside, returning through another wire in the same cable, to the 3-way Terminal Block.

Where that Switched Return Wire and probably the Unswitched Neutral are taken downwards through the vertical, pink-painted cable to Andrew's "Presume Doorbell", the "Mains" cabling terminating there.

Leaving the other longer, horizontal, over-painted cable as the PSTN/phone cable, coming through the same "hole-in-wall" to traverse through the white, round box; and out horizontally to disappear behind the pipe/s, to reappear to connect to and enter the other white "rectangular" box in the second photo.

Exactly what that second-photo box is, is not absolutely clear, either a rather large junction box or could it be a modem, given that Konrad has said that the other cable from its top, connects to the "Router"; and looks as though it may have an RJ series connector, as Xrayspex suggested.



Generally a satisfactory explanation for the internal wiring; but it does leave the question of -

"What are the arrangements out by the Bell Push, as its own (Mains) wiring by definition returns in to the house (I hope), whilst the PSTN/Phone wiring has to proceed onwards, to reach the PCP equivalent and the Exchange, somehow?"

I wonder if Konrad could clarify that aspect, by producing a photo?



Agreed about the RF source and emissions; and being effectively "White Noise" spread across a wide spectrum-

Back EMF = -L * dI / dT

where-
L is the Inductance in Henries
dI is the change of Current in Amps
dT is the change of Time in Seconds.

dI could be in the one or 2 Amp area,
dT could be extremely small, micro- and milli-seconds,

so that this intermediate Resultant could be very large,

whilst L for the Bell Coil/s could again be a fair size

Final result - plenty of sparks and interference!

I remember the shocks induced when playing about with PO Relays, using about a 12 Volt supply.

Edited by deleted (Sun 09-Feb-14 14:49:10)

I generally agree with your proposed layout except we don't really know where the doorbell supply and the phone line originate from; we are just guessing. Also:

In reply to a post by eckiedoo:

could it be a modem, given that Konrad has said that the other cable from its top, connects to the 'Router'

No doubt the OP, like most of us, refer to his Modem/Router as a 'Router'. I'm sure that 2nd oblong box is just OP's phone socket.

Our problem is that the OP, having asked for our help, can see all this wiring but we can't. Yet he won't answer our Qs fully so that we may understand what is obvious to him but not to us.

Agreed - he seems to think we have magic wands (and XrayEyeS).

However, I feel satisfied that collectively, we have a reasonable idea of what the circuitry is.

Yo, trouble is to remove the doorbell from the equation will require a competent electrician - something which the OP seems unwilling to undertake.

The thought that the small white plastic 3line JB may be live is truly shocking.

All in all a potential accident just waiting to happen - glad were not in Poland....

And does not appreciate the legal implications if anyone is injured and beyond!

I'm sorry. At the moment I can't take photo.

How far apart are the (doorbell, round box, connector block) and the broadband/phoneline connection box?

It is very little distance. Phoneline connection box is along the same pipe, down the (doorbell, round box, connector box).

Did your ISP install the broadband/phoneline box ONLY? And is that why it is not painted pink?

As far as I know my ISP installed all, also round box. They installed all nearly the doorbell.

which is also used by the doorbell wire which appears to go under the round box after originating from the white 3 line junction box by the sunken round pink painted 'cover'.

Yes. According to my father, doorbell is connected to pink round box. Pink round box is electric box. To that there are connected all electric cables (not only doorbell). Phone line is near of the mains.
Best regards
konrado5

Edited by konrado5 (Sat 22-Feb-14 23:01:13)

Exactly what that second-photo box is, is not absolutely clear, either a rather large junction box or could it be a modem, given that Konrad has said that the other cable from its top, connects to the "Router"; and looks as though it may have an RJ series connector, as Xrayspex suggested.

Yes, on the second photo there is phone box having RJ. To that there is modem connected.

Never get a telecoms company fit mains wiring and never get an electrician to wire a phone circuit!

In reply to a post by konrado5:

Pink round box is electric box.

Where's the household mains fuse box/ consumer unit? Is that it?

In reference to www.esc.org.uk/public/home-electrics/fuseboxes-explained/:

Your Fusebox � the fusebox also known as consumer unit should be easy to find. You should make sure you know where it is in case you ever need to turn the electricity off in an emergency.

In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:

In reply to a post by konrado5:

Pink round box is electric box.

Where's the household mains fuse box/ consumer unit? Is that it?

In reference to www.esc.org.uk/public/home-electrics/fuseboxes-explained/:

Your Fusebox � the fusebox also known as consumer unit should be easy to find. You should make sure you know where it is in case you ever need to turn the electricity off in an emergency.

No. It is not Fusebox. Fusebox is two walls far away.