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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Thu 11-Dec-14 17:58:52
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I was seeing the problem in FF.


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 12-Dec-14 02:02:55
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Sorry about the firestorm I caused with the photo sharing site I used smile I use Firefox with a JavaScript blocker and the site seemed to work perfectly for me, so I didn't foresee anybody else suffering any issues. I'll try something different next time smile

I'm unavailable for the next two days, but have a couple more suggestions to investigate and might be able to give you all some new data when I'm back. I'll take a picture of the junction box too so you can all have a look at that time.
Standard User kasg
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 12-Dec-14 13:29:20
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Pictures just open for me in a new tab, no problem whatsoever. Firefox 34.0.

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Standard User Malwaremike
(committed) Fri 12-Dec-14 13:39:21
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Your links worked instantly for me in Firefox 34. In general, if something can go wrong you can rely on me to find it frown
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 14-Dec-14 17:45:05
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Hi everybody

I've collected quite a bit of broadband data now so I thought it might be best to upload a fair amount of images in a compressed file rather than individually uploading stuff. Can anybody recommend a non-login site that is easy and safe to use for all?

I wasn't able to take any photos of the outside box due to the weather, but I'll try to do that shortly.

One member here kindly messaged me and asked me why BT didn't automatically properly upgrade the star wiring into a modern extension system. It seems I definitely have star wiring as plugging a telephone into the secondary extension test socket worked fine, even though I'm using the test socket on the master socket. Has anybody else had any experience with what BT should do if they replace your master socket?

The neighbour has kindly allowed me to start monitoring their SNR and connection speed information. I won't be able to do nearly as much sampling, but the results will be interesting. So far, I can't see any correlation between the two properties.

My phone only has a telephone and a broadband modem plugged into a microfilter, there is no other wiring. I can run without the phone from time to time, but truthfully, the phone has been in this week and as the following shows, the line has been more stable than other times when only the modem is plugged in. I need to do more testing on it though.

There has been the following number of re-connections on the line in the last week:-

13th of December - 2
12th of December - 0
11th of December - 1
10th of December - 1
9th of December - 0
8th of December - 1
7th of December - 1

I don't have any reasons as to why it's been much better this week in all honesty.

Thanks all.
Standard User ggremlin
(committed) Sun 14-Dec-14 18:34:35
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In reply to a post by Cycle194:
Hi everybody

I've collected quite a bit of broadband data now so I thought it might be best to upload a fair amount of images in a compressed file rather than individually uploading stuff. Can anybody recommend a non-login site that is easy and safe to use for all? -chop-


I would share it via dropbox, you would need a free account yourself, but publish an open link
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(deleted) Mon 15-Dec-14 16:58:52
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I've uploaded a set of graphs from the past few days. These are a mix of RouterStatsLite and DSLStats graphs. Those with a date are from my property, those labelled "Neighbour" are self-explanatory.

http://dropproxy.com/f/9F2

DSLStats has some small issues with graphing at times, so sometimes the line goes back on itself (time-wise, which is of course impossible), but no data is being lost by this.

Thanks
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 24-Dec-14 02:56:43
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Hey all

I managed to get some wiring images for you all to see. It can be downloaded from this location:-

http://dropproxy.com/f/A0A

The following gives a guide to the photos:-

* Box.jpg shows the outside box which seems to be the main incoming connection (circled in green).
* Window.jpg shows the cable running from the box in the previous image into an upstairs window.
* Windows-close.jpg shows the actual window where the cable comes in and a separate cable seems to leave by a second hole for the perceived master BT box downstairs.
* Inside.jpg shows the connection between the incoming line and the one branching off downstairs.

It seems from these images that the upstairs is the first port of call for the line, and the line is split into two at the junction shown in Inside.jpg.

What do you all think?

Thanks
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(deleted) Wed 24-Dec-14 12:15:24
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Two things strike me.

The first is that the "box" is highly exposed to relatively strange guttering arrangement; and may be subjected to leaks in significant quantities etc, from the various joints around it; apart from any wind-carried rain as well.

Keep in mind that the guttering is carrying rain water from a large area of roof - or it isn't doing its basic job.

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The second is "What is the grey ducting coming in from the right in the 'inside' photo carrying?"

That could be the main arrival "NTE-equivalent" part of the wiring, particularly as the outside photos do not show any overhead.

Our estate was fully pre-wired underground in 1967, with no obvious signs of outside phone wiring etc, apart from the older PCP and the more recent FTTC.

Inside the house, the only sign of the BT "D-side" is on the back wall of a cupboard, presently a simple RJ11 wall socket (no filters etc); and originally was a simple standard-size box cover, with a half-inch square opening, with a contact on each side ("J-type"?).
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(deleted) Sun 28-Dec-14 23:03:39
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I agree with you on the box. It doesn't seem to be in a great place, but that's the way it was when I moved in here.

The grey wires on the right of the "inside" photo goes off to the second phone line box I recently found. The first black line going into the BT box comes from the outside wall-mounted box and the second goes back outside and connects to what I originally thought was the master socket. It's quite a strange set up all around, but it seems clear now that this is the initial portal for the phone line coming in. What this ultimately means is beyond my knowledge, but it looks to me to be quite an old setup.

What do you all think?

Thanks
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