I used one of those, it's made of copper coated aluminium and magnesium - burns completely in a flame. It was twisted pair so better than a flat phone cable but not as good as solid copper UTP that I got from Tandy.

Burned into flame ? Literally ? I'm getting worried now

Sorry that was unclear. If you hold it in a flame it burns just like magnesium ribbon does. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSr39UwpELo

Oh right much clearer now
Thank you

Hi
Finally received the router hg635 , speed test wireless 65 Mbps so great however I had to make 2 different wireless name for it as before I couldn't go higher than 40mbps , it's been on for 3 hours and no drop so far but I'm gonna wait before I celebrate ,
5ghz wireless is much better on this router I can go all over the house with it , even with one or 2 bars it's very solid and still get around 50 Mbps down and 18 Mbps upload
Will keep you posted after the weekend
Thank you

Yes you must split the wireless SSIDs otherwise most devices will go onto the 2.4Ghz band, since this band is lower frequency and therefore has a stronger signal, devices are programmed to connect into the SSID with best signal rather than the one with the best bandwidth.

It's a common issue with virtually all routers.

Glad it has resolved your issues. As I say the range on the HG635 is brilliant and in my home is better than the latest BT smart Hub which they're advertising everywhere as the UKs best wifi coverage. That's because they tested their smart hub against the HG633.

It's a great little device, I would recommend it to anybody. The 633 has some serious issues with wireless.

I thought iPhones were clever enough to connect to 5 ghz when close to the router at least anyway thanks for your advises , will keep you posted in a couple of days
By the way since I have 2 gh633 at home can I sell them on eBay ? Or they'll ask for it at the end of the contract ??

In reply to a post by stevenfrenchy:

I thought iPhones were clever enough to connect to 5 ghz when close to the router at least anyway thanks for your advises , will keep you posted in a couple of days
By the way since I have 2 gh633 at home can I sell them on eBay ? Or they'll ask for it at the end of the contract ??

Talktalk asked me to return equipment, but only one of the routers.

iPhones generally detect the 2.4Ghz networks before 5Ghz ones, so often go into that SSID. If in the same room as the home router, they do sometimes see the 5Ghz signal is strong and move onto that band. When the RSSI is below -60, ie through one or two walls, I find iPhones stick on 2.4Ghz.

Newer routers have a feature called "band steering." This feature basically detects which devices are dual band capable, then when it sees a dual band iPhone connecting at 2.4Ghz, with a decent signal strength, the router physically blocks the device logging into the 2.4Ghz band, thereby forcing it to use 5Ghz. This does solve the issue. In business environments you often see this setup, but not commonly in the home. This is why at work, your iphone etc probably roams onto 5Ghz... The only ISP equipment that has this feature is the new BT Hub, but the feature has not yet been enabled in the firmware, it shows "coming soon."

Edited by ukhardy07 (Fri 15-Jul-16 23:07:52)

Thanks for the explanation

Another question my laptop doesn't support 5ghz so looking to buy a dongle, I see two different speed for 5 ghz one is 867 Mbps speed ( more expensive)and most common one is 433 Mbps would I see a big difference in speed ??? Also some of them come with antennas and others are really tiny so more practical , is there a big difference on wifi signal with the antennas ?
Which one would you recommend ?
Thanks again