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Standard User Piscatorian
(learned) Wed 26-May-21 14:56:58
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Re: Access Point or Bridge?


[re: Banger] [link to this post]
 
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Media bridge is a wifi bridge not DSL bridge.


I've read on another site that someone else with a similar problem was advised to consider either of these:
ZyXel VMG1312-B10A
Billion 8800NL
Netgear DSL 7000

I've seen a ZyXel VMG1312-B10A (unlocked) on eBay for about £20ish, do you think its worth going down the route of setting it up now or wait until my FTTP in installed later in the year when of course I'll have no use for the modem?
Standard User Piscatorian
(learned) Wed 26-May-21 15:05:36
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Re: Access Point or Bridge?


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In reply to a post by Piscatorian:
Hi Everyone,
I hope you guys can help but I'm having problems?!
I've been having lots of issues with drops-outs and speed issues on my FTTC so to start with I thought I'd replace my rather ageing Billion 7800n with a TP-Link c4000 router and It turns out that wasn't problem. I then thought I'd replace the BT Openreach modem so I've purchase a Netgear DSL-N16 modem router.

At the moment I'm only using the Netgear DSL-N16 and although its only been a couple of days its so far so good!

So this now leads to a few questions.
How do I connect the TP-Link C4000 to the DSL-N16 and should this be connected as an access point/range extender?

I know very little about this kind of thing so any replies in laymen's terms would be appreciated.
Many thanks in advance.


The easiest option would be to run the TP-Link in access point mode and use the Asus as the Modem/Router

Thanks
Dan

Hi Dan,
I know where to change the setting on the TP-Link to make it an AP but do I need to change any other settings on the Asus/TP-Link?
Also would that be a wifi access point or could I need to connect the two with a lead and if so from which ports on the back?
Please forgive my ignorance but I'm not at all sure what I'm doing!
Many thanks
Standard User danielhyde
(member) Wed 26-May-21 15:22:13
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Re: Access Point or Bridge?


[re: Piscatorian] [link to this post]
 
Section 4. 3. in the user manual has the information on setting the TP-Link up as an access point.
Once you have done this you can connect a cable from the TP-Link to the Asus and it should go into a LAN port on both devices.

Thanks
Dan


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Standard User Piscatorian
(learned) Wed 26-May-21 15:36:11
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Re: Access Point or Bridge?


[re: danielhyde] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by danielhyde:
Section 4. 3. in the user manual has the information on setting the TP-Link up as an access point.
Once you have done this you can connect a cable from the TP-Link to the Asus and it should go into a LAN port on both devices.

Thanks
Dan

Thats a great help thank you for that.
I've got to go out now but will take a look later this evening... hopefully!
Cheers
David
Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 26-May-21 17:18:09
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Re: Access Point or Bridge?


[re: Piscatorian] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by Piscatorian:
In reply to a post by Banger:
Media bridge is a wifi bridge not DSL bridge.


I've read on another site that someone else with a similar problem was advised to consider either of these:
ZyXel VMG1312-B10A
Billion 8800NL
Netgear DSL 7000

I've seen a ZyXel VMG1312-B10A (unlocked) on eBay for about £20ish, do you think its worth going down the route of setting it up now or wait until my FTTP in installed later in the year when of course I'll have no use for the modem?


The VMG-1312-B10A is a rock solid modem but can crash in router mode. For £20 I would go for it that is a bargain price. I run a 1312 in modem mode with a RT-AC68U.

Tim
talktalkbusiness.net & freenetname
Asus RT-AC68U and ZyXEL VMG1312-B10A Bridge on 80/20 Meg Fibre
Speed Test

Highest Sync: 79993/19661

BQM
Standard User devonkev
(newbie) Wed 26-May-21 17:55:27
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Re: Access Point or Bridge?


[re: Piscatorian] [link to this post]
 
From what I understand, you would like to setup the following:
DSL-N16 – Modem only
C4000 – Acting as the router

I would personally start by factory defaulting the DSL-N16, making a note that VDSL on BT operates over VLAN 101.

Follow the instructions on this page, to setup a PPPoE bridge on the DSL-N16, this will enable your C4000 to authenticate with your ISP and operate as the router.
https://uktechhub.com/forums/topic/asus-xdsl-pppoe-b...

To setup the C4000 to connect via PPPoE follow the instructions on this page.
https://www.tp-link.com/us/user-guides/archer-c4000_...
Standard User Piscatorian
(learned) Wed 26-May-21 18:04:13
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Re: Access Point or Bridge?


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Thank you but there are still some things I'm unsure/confused about.
What is the difference between a DSL/WiFi Bridge and an access point?
Also if I go as previously suggested and use the TP-Link as an AP, would there be any sacrifice in speed?
Standard User Piscatorian
(learned) Wed 26-May-21 18:30:47
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Re: Access Point or Bridge?


[re: devonkev] [link to this post]
 
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From what I understand, you would like to setup the following:
DSL-N16 – Modem only
C4000 – Acting as the router

I would personally start by factory defaulting the DSL-N16, making a note that VDSL on BT operates over VLAN 101.

Follow the instructions on this page, to setup a PPPoE bridge on the DSL-N16, this will enable your C4000 to authenticate with your ISP and operate as the router.
https://uktechhub.com/forums/topic/asus-xdsl-pppoe-b...

To setup the C4000 to connect via PPPoE follow the instructions on this page.
https://www.tp-link.com/us/user-guides/archer-c4000_...


That article from uk tech hub goes back to 2018 are you sure thats still valid as a couple of days ago ASUS said that it can only go into media bridge mode (WDS)?
Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 26-May-21 19:32:32
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Re: Access Point or Bridge?


[re: Piscatorian] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by Piscatorian:
Thank you but there are still some things I'm unsure/confused about.
What is the difference between a DSL/WiFi Bridge and an access point?
Also if I go as previously suggested and use the TP-Link as an AP, would there be any sacrifice in speed?


To try and explain media bridge WDS I have two DSL-N55U in this config. It links my router to and ethernet port on a Panasonic PVR over wifi. The wifi in the Panasonic went pop so I have the two N55Us in a media "link" or bridge.

I'm not familiar with the TP-Link as AP but should imagine it will be fine depending on the wifi chip and speed.

Tim
talktalkbusiness.net & freenetname
Asus RT-AC68U and ZyXEL VMG1312-B10A Bridge on 80/20 Meg Fibre
Speed Test

Highest Sync: 79993/19661

BQM
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