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Standard User Thelolinator
(newbie) Fri 04-Jun-21 09:35:45
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Router does not support PPPoE - device to do auth only?


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Hi everyone!

My ISP uses PPPoE for authentication. My router (Eero) does not support PPPoE. I'd like to avoid double NAT (if that's even possible). Is there a device that could potentially sit in-front of the router that handles the auth only and lets the Eero handle everything else?

If I'm not mistaken, having a modem/router in bridge mode would just pass the PPPoE requirement to the router - but since that won't work is there a modem/router that has a "modem" mode, similar to how Virgin's hubs work?

Thanks!
Standard User Pheasant
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 04-Jun-21 15:23:30
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Why the choice of Eero as a router if it doesn’t do PPPoE? Seems an odd choice to make.
Standard User aidanh
(newbie) Fri 04-Jun-21 15:39:48
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You want a "wired router" and then configure the Eero to work as an access point only.


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Standard User danielhyde
(member) Fri 04-Jun-21 15:49:06
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Re: Router does not support PPPoE - device to do auth only?


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In reply to a post by aidanh:
You want a "wired router" and then configure the Eero to work as an access point only.


From the support pages i doesn't appear eero support Access Point only mode.
Please seen link below:

Eero

Thanks
Dan
Standard User aidanh
(newbie) Fri 04-Jun-21 15:58:30
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Wow, that's terrible! Ignore my suggestion then. I didn't think it was possible that somebody would design a wifi router without an access-point only mode, every wireless router I've ever owned has had this option.

Standard User danielhyde
(member) Fri 04-Jun-21 16:02:22
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I've seen quite a few but on those you can disable DHCP and that basically turns it into an AP.
I'm more surprised that it doesn't support PPPoE, although as its designed for the US that could be why but I've never used a router that doesn't support it.

Thanks Dan
Standard User amiga_dude
(regular) Fri 04-Jun-21 16:14:20
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In reply to a post by Thelolinator:
I'd like to avoid double NAT (if that's even possible).


Well if not all is not lost. What need to do is something like this:-

The router from you isp I will call (ISP)
The router you already own I will call (Yours)

(ISP) get it IP address ie 192.168.0.1, you need to make shore this is different IP address (Yours) router ie 192.168.1.1 , both them can not use same IP's
(Yours) you will need to know it Wan MAC address.
(ISP) in this system DHCP register (Yours) Wan MAC address to lets say 192.168.0.100
(ISP) set DMZ (Demilitarized Zone) as 192.168.0.100

Connect (Yours) router from it WAN port to the (ISP) Lan Ports.

Connect all your kit to (Yours) router Lan-WiFi.

This way you will be able to do things like Port Forwarding.

Edited by amiga_dude (Fri 04-Jun-21 16:15:20)

Standard User Kr1s69
(knowledge is power) Fri 04-Jun-21 16:22:32
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Eero user here on Vodafone broadband. (Soon to be back with plusnet)

There’s no magic solution to this and I was very surprised to to find the Eero didn’t support PPPoE.

Ive not found any real issues though having the Vodafone router manage the connection and then the Eero as the first device. I normally switch off the Wifi in the Vodafone router to avoid any interference.

Kris

Plusnet
Ashington (Northumberland) Exchange
Standard User Pheasant
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 05-Jun-21 16:22:07
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Wow, that's terrible! Ignore my suggestion then. I didn't think it was possible that somebody would design a wifi router without an access-point only mode, every wireless router I've ever owned has had this option.

Is there any point to a SOHO/domestic “router” (in the UK) that doesn’t do PPPoE and can’t be placed in access point mode?

You need at least another box to make it function as it should.

Why do people buy it exactly? Seems flipping bizarre to me, unless they like lots of boxes with pretty lights.
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 05-Jun-21 20:39:48
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Is there any point to a SOHO/domestic “router” (in the UK) that doesn’t do PPPoE and can’t be placed in access point mode?
Okay with Virgin Cable if you set the Virgin Hub into modem mode. This then provides the public IP over DHCP. eero I believe is now owned by Amazon, and is a US product, so probably only planned for DHCP cable networks.

In comparison reviews I believe the ASUS and BTwholehome products generally get scored higher.

Eero should not be sold in the UK, or sold as "suitable for virgin media only".

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Edited by jchamier (Sat 05-Jun-21 20:42:39)

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