Or just read through this massive thread:

https://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/f/4664574-bt...

Oh heavens. I remember that thread now 😀

In reply to a post by dect:

My comment was around practicalities of simply using a RJ45 copper patch lead over the whole fibre thing for a 200Mbps circuit that may only need to go a few metres. Sometimes people want to over engineer the solution because technology gives them a buzz 😎

Historically with EAD, Openreach (following on from BT) on the NTE customer interface offered copper for services that were up to 100 Mbps and otherwise fibre for services that needed a gigabit bearer.

Only quite recently did Openreach update the EAD offering to include 1000BaseT copper on the customer interface. I think they changed around mid 2020. This was probably as the service evolved and broadened its base over the years from a strictly corporate product and moved into the non-corporate market, also as prices eased and they became more relatively available.

Still I'm pretty sure for EAD, fibre remains the 'default' offering for gigabit and part gigabit services from the NTE unless the customer specifically requests the copper 1000BaseT for access.

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

Oh heavens. I remember that thread now 😀

Never missed a beat since!

I tried a DAC for one of my customers and got no connection.

Thanks Dan.

I've asked recently if we can use the ethernet port and always get told its DFP only for gigabit bearers.

Thanks
Dan

Having refreshed my memory perusing the monster linked thread above...🤣

I think it was @jpm that noted the copper port for Gig bearers (available since mid 2020) an ‘upgrade’ path when the customer is moving from say a 10 or 100 Mbps based bearer on copper.

For “new” gigabit bearer services OR will insist on access provision using SFP

In reply to a post by danielhyde:

I tried a DAC for one of my customers and got no connection.

Thanks Dan.

It’s known to work with the Adva’s but perhaps it could be the DAC used.

Ahh, that makes sense.

Thanks
Dan

It could be, it worked between the router and a switch so I know it works.
I think it was Netgate branded.

Thanks
Dan