In reply to a post by docki:

In reply to a post by anon123456:

The VM site

http://shop.virginmedia.com/help/discover-broadband/...

It's being updated every now and again.

It's amazing that they rate hudderfield over Sheffield. I always thought Sheffield was erm bigger!?

It's nothing to do with how they 'rate' areas. They did trials in Huddersfield so it was good to go. Sheffield isn't yet. All about how much work it is to get each area ready, how good the networks are, and the workload of the guys in the local area.

A year or so to go before this is all complete.

Plus, I would expect smaller areas to be hit first as it's potentially easier and a good way of catching any last glitches and affecting smaller numbers of people before they go live in larger areas.

I'm not expecting Bristol to be done any time soon.

In reply to a post by pete_thomson:

Plus, I would expect smaller areas to be hit first as it's potentially easier and a good way of catching any last glitches and affecting smaller numbers of people before they go live in larger areas.

I'm not expecting Bristol to be done any time soon.

Ah not so much, due to how the network is constructed glitches will affect smaller areas anyway regardless of whether they roll out to a town, village or city.

These aren't actually geographical lists, they are lists of hub sites, locations where Virgin have equipment and customers' connections go. Kinda the equivalent of exchanges on the BT network. Each of these has a number of routers in them which the customers actually connect to, and in turn line cards within those routers. The upgrade is rolled out by line card. The work needed to upgrade the networks in preparation for the upgrade is done in the field on fibre cabinets within the VM network.

In reply to a post by Ignitionnet:

In reply to a post by pete_thomson:

Plus, I would expect smaller areas to be hit first as it's potentially easier and a good way of catching any last glitches and affecting smaller numbers of people before they go live in larger areas.

I'm not expecting Bristol to be done any time soon.

Ah not so much, due to how the network is constructed glitches will affect smaller areas anyway regardless of whether they roll out to a town, village or city.

These aren't actually geographical lists, they are lists of hub sites, locations where Virgin have equipment and customers' connections go. Kinda the equivalent of exchanges on the BT network. Each of these has a number of routers in them which the customers actually connect to, and in turn line cards within those routers. The upgrade is rolled out by line card. The work needed to upgrade the networks in preparation for the upgrade is done in the field on fibre cabinets within the VM network.

An engineer told me once that the amount of work required to maintain a 50mbps network was immense. Is this the same scenario for 100mbps?

In reply to a post by docki:

An engineer told me once that the amount of work required to maintain a 50mbps network was immense. Is this the same scenario for 100mbps?

The engineer didn't know what he was talking about. The 5Mbps upload requires far more work to install and maintain than the 50Mbps downstream did. The 50M actually requires not a lot more maintenance than the earlier DOCSIS 1.1 network did.

The 100Mbps is reliant on additional work to increase upstream capacity as well as extra work through node splits downstream which is why areas that are on 5Mbps upstream aren't on 100Mbps downstream yet.

Edited by deleted (Wed 27-Oct-10 20:26:37)

In reply to a post by Ignitionnet:

In reply to a post by docki:

An engineer told me once that the amount of work required to maintain a 50mbps network was immense. Is this the same scenario for 100mbps?

The engineer didn't know what he was talking about. The 5Mbps upload requires far more work to install and maintain than the 50Mbps downstream did. The 50M actually requires not a lot more maintenance than the earlier DOCSIS 1.1 network did.

The 100Mbps is reliant on additional work to increase upstream capacity as well as extra work through node splits downstream which is why areas that are on 5Mbps upstream aren't on 100Mbps downstream yet.

I did wonder if they were doing the upload speed increase along with the 100mbit down increase, seems like it would make sense to do both at the same time, but I guess in reality it's not that simple.

Oh well, I'm just getting ready to embrace either benefit, I really want extra upload, going from 50mbit to 100mbit is nice for sure but not as in demand as more upload, I'd be happy to wait for the 100mbit for a year or so if they can get the 5mbit upload live soon.

They haven't added my area to their page yet, but it looks like Nottinghamshire is getting the upgrades. I noticed my new upload speed yesterday

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1010958569.png

Well I am lost with my problem.

VM tell me they are not trained to deal with any upload problems and it is my area. which is that is the case fair enough. However if it was my area would I honestly get maxed upload when downloading and a piddle when I am just uploading?

I am happy with it in general. I have put off any file backups until 5MB that's assuming I actually get it.

Edited by deleted (Sun 31-Oct-10 14:14:02)

List is bigger again

Aylesbury
Bolton
Bromborough
Cheshunt
Clifton
Cwmbran
Darlington
Enfield
Greenock
Hartlepool
Heckmondwike
Hinckley
Huddersfield
Middlesborough
Nailsea
Neath
Pentwyn
Stoke
Sutton Coldfield
Warwick
Yeadon

I see the list is getting bigger on a near daily basis