Story on what?

The ASA 10% ruling, willing to bet that the testers used for the assessment of the 10% are not the 10% heaviest users triggering the throttling back. In fact the signup pages for a tester indicate they want average usage figures, which may skew things.

We were one of the few to cover the other metrics from the Ofcom testing, and have visibility of some of this ourselves via other testing that we run.

story on VM giving fix dates that slip and slip, closing tickets without fix, that sort of thing.

or is it in your view a non event?

In regards to the STM, what I meant by that is that the ASA ruled that any throttling on unlimited products can be moderate only, STM cuts speed by 75% which makes it far more than moderate. Hence my view it conflicts,

Edited by Chrysalis (Fri 10-Feb-12 10:54:33)

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Jitter is likely noticeable on anything above about 40% utilisation.

Mid-60s.

it was noticeable here when I was told I had mid 40s utilisation. Also if utilisation is at say 40% and a 100mbit user does a upload speedtest or something, that would cause a burst of jitter would it not as it would burst it to 100% utillisation or close to it.

My idea of noticeable and yours are probably different. My idea of noticeable is a minor affect to service rather than obsessively watching TBB graphs and looking for the slightest delay on an SSH session.

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Jitter is likely noticeable on anything above about 40% utilisation.

Mid-60s.

So in most areas just about any time you want to use it unless you're an insomniac.

Some, not most.

call it what you like. an effect is an effect.

think of it this way, if a tbb graph is showing a fluctuation the chances are gamers will notice it. you can call it obsessive as much as you like.

that facts are this tho.

if I dont notice a problem on my connection I will at most check my graphs and do speedtests maybe once a week. If I do notice a problem on my connection then I will start to do checks which will include checking my graph and speedtests.

the sad state of affairs is I notice problems every day on my connection. Even with these daily problems I dont do speedtests and check my graph daily. I cant help it if simply using my connection shows me problems.

you may have a low expectation of your connection but dont expect everyone else to.

so you cant clarify how this mid 60s % figure was determined?

also its worth pointing out I never said major or minor I said any problem. certianly my current issues compared to a year ago are minor, however they are excessive when compared to better VM areas and certianly to infinity. Although granted I have no personal experience of infinity yet and that could turn out to be a pile of turd in this area when it comes to town.

Edited by Chrysalis (Sun 12-Feb-12 06:47:42)

most web pages today taking 3+ seconds to respond. Although not as bad as 12 months ago the way its declining my area will be like that within a month or so.

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you may have a low expectation of your connection but dont expect everyone else to.

Perhaps it comes from years of experience of cable?

LOL they saying its very high again.

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/Up-to-30Mb-broad...

so they went from extremely high to way below fault threshold to very high.

5th ticket now.

mrsaffron read that thread I posted, and you will see what I mean.

I've amused myself with a response to that one on the VM board.

They really are becoming a total farce - I can see them going completely down the tubes in a couple of years time.

The mid-60s % figure was derived from laboratory tests by hardware vendors based on controlled tests of minislot utilisation on TDMA cable networks with hundreds of test modems.

Along with this are my own observations as someone who, unlike yourself, has actually worked with this stuff in the real world over multiple operators and network deployments.

I'm sure your observations of your Think Broadband Quality Monitor trump this and you'll be happy to try and correct me with second hand anecdotal evidence based on out of date or flawed information.

I couldn't care less what your connection says, when will you get through your head that every thread on Cableforum, Think Broadband and wherever else that touches on this topic isn't about your connection, your experience is exceptional and does not reflect the average experience.

Yes, jitter will increase during peak time on contended TDMA networks, shock of shocks, if you've a problem with this return to ADSL where you've a synchronous and nailed up link with the ISP''s transport network or purchase yourself a leased line.

Your constant whining about your own connection along with your total cluelessness on anything remotely technical outside of your extremely narrow experience in managing web servers is getting boring. If you don't like your VM service tell them to shove their service up their hindmost, switch back to a more stable jitter ADSL given that's what you seen to obsess over, return to giving yourself callouses over a Think Broadband quality meter and stop moaning. Ideally try and get something resembling a life while you're at it, ideally it might distract you from Think Broadband quality meters for a while.

Either way stop trying to play a big boys' game pretending you have a clue about networks of any description. You very clearly, across tons of posts across different forums, really don't. Just another nerd wannabe making money out of other peoples' ignorance and bigging up his own ego trying to make out he knows what he's talking about on forums.

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