I forgot to mention - I have the superhub. Having read horror stories about it I put it into modem only mode the minute I started to set it up. Partly because I believed the tales about the coverage being poor, partly because I was too darned idle to want to change all my wireless devices to a new router. Much easier to leave the existing Belkin N one in situ, it works just fine.

Maybe I'm being unkind to VM by not giving that a chance ?

In reply to a post by TMCR:

Give it a chance. Set it up with your own SSID and see how long it lasts.
On r30 firmware it would crash and then reset to the default virginmedia.... SSID.
The router would crash. Only option was to turn it off and on. Then everything was default as if I had held a pin in the reset button. Great... When this became an almost weekly occurrence I got mad.

Just out of interest. Try to access the superhub interface at 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.100.1 after the superhubs been on for 10+ days. Betcha it doesn't work anymore without a reboot.

It often stops working after just a couple of hours even! This was a big bug bear of mine as I don't turn routers off and like to access the settings every so often.

There's a few more annoying issues but I honestly don't remember them

The firmware on r36 introduced a buggy usage meter... Go into the usage meter just for laughs. It has been reporting e.g. 50gb download in 5 minutes. Not really possible on 30Mbps.

Anyway I'm glad to be rid of that thing.

EDIT: Virgin blamed my area and faults in this area on the reason why my superhub was screwing up, so I'd be interested if they were right.

Edited by ukhardy07 (Thu 16-Aug-12 01:42:45)

Had the SH since May now, no issues to report at all. It's been on R36 a while, still can't find anything wrong with it.

One of these days, when I've nothing better to do, I'll try setting the router up and see what happens. I doubt thats going to be anytime soon though, no need to...

To be honest mate. It's working good for you now. Don't mess as it can only get worse. If it ain't broken don't fix it

recently joined VM
Mix feelings can not say is bad because when it works is great service may even better than fttc

Dont worry too much about modem/equipment and faults because with any internet connection from time to time may occur faults ... but here some basic factors

Pros
you get the full advertised speed everywhere while with fttc if cabinet is far .... half speed out of the 80/20 may apply
Modem if keep turn off frequent will not affect line like fttc
No phone line need to have but just the broadband
28 days to change your mind and leave them in the case you have speed and traffic problems

cons
during peak times IF(i say IF you are unlucky there is a chance) your area is busy speeds may go down and also for the same factor on line games may be hard to play with out lag (that may develop by time and not necessary when you join them )
All VM packages have Traffic policy(depending the speed package)...if you very heavy downloader or if watching many movies(not talking for just 1-2) on line is not the best choice it will cut your speed which still you leave you with enough but this may affect latency

Lucky for me the area is been upgraded and is not traffic congestion at the moment but had before

Edited by deleted (Thu 16-Aug-12 03:03:46)

I always wrongly assumed that FTTC would be like VM in that the advertised speed was the actual speed for everybody.

Virgin sell 100Mbps and give you that. That's a real breath of fresh air as you mention. It can't be easy for them to achieve this.

In reply to a post by ukhardy07:

To be honest mate. It's working good for you now. Don't mess as it can only get worse. If it ain't broken don't fix it

That was my thought in setting up the Superhub the way I did - just connect it, swap to modem only, plug the Belkin router in and everything works as it used to, but faster.

I'm not looking for gaming speeds, P2P running 24/7, or any heavy use like that. I listen to radio streaming, do some bits over VNC for a charity, and it all just...works.

What is this "inescapable jitter" you mention?

They way cable upstream works makes jitter (variations in latency) an absolute certainty. Take a look at the TBB latency monitoring carts in http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33675644-think-... to see what I mean. It's a monster thread so I linked to nearly the end as IPs have changed for many of the early posts and they no longer show anything. There are some Infinity charts in there and they have virtually 0 jitter.

Sorry, but that still doesn't explain what it is I'm supposed to be looking for. I'm just puzzled because you seem to indicate that it is something negative and inherent in their network that I don't think I've ever experienced on my VM connection.