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Standard User Stanman_24
(knowledge is power) Thu 28-Mar-13 14:47:35
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good point !

Interesting to know how many people do max out their connections !

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 29-Mar-13 08:04:09
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Re: New Traffic Management Policy


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I always avoid using torrents in the evening anyway. Given that most ISP networks are vulnerable to congestion in the evening I reckon it is anti-social to hog the network between 5 and 10.

I am more concerned that it may be relatively easy to trigger throttling just by gaming and streaming movies all evening. Any thoughts on how much I would download if, for example, two different users around my house streamed from Love Film or Netflix or using XBMC? Given that most people subscribe to super fast broadband so they can stream films it would be very remiss of VM to throttle them!

Another question. How long will it be before torrenting will be limited to a determined minority? All the major ISPs have been ordered to block torrent indexing sites such as Kickass Torrents and Torrent Reactor. At the moment sites such as Isohunt have not been touched and you can get around the block at Come in, but this will not last. What would be the point of traffic management if hardly anyone can torrent?

The answer to that question, in the case of VM, may be that the network is so vulnerable to over subscription and ordinary evening use that traffic management will be needed anyway.

Edited by deleted (Fri 29-Mar-13 08:12:14)

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 29-Mar-13 09:02:29
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Work on a good stream being 4 Meg so two for two hours would 7.2 GB. Gaming playeg BF3 is only 100 to 200MB

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 29-Mar-13 12:57:51
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
Work on a good stream being 4 Meg so two for two hours would 7.2 GB. Gaming playeg BF3 is only 100 to 200MB


So, for using my superfast broadband for what it is meant for I am likely to be throttled? Two people in my house streaming two separate movies is a frequent scenario. On a 100Mb connection we get absolutely no problems buffering. It is instant. I think that is responsible use of our connection especially in an evening when my family are most able to use the internet for entertainment. If an ISP cannot deliver a service that allows responsible usage it should not be an ISP. Any sign of slow buffering resulting from throttling I will be making a formal complaint. We pay enough after all!
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 29-Mar-13 17:41:03
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If buffering is worse then the throttling is broke, i can watch a single hd stream on 6Meg connection with no buffering.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 29-Mar-13 23:40:37
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IMO it would be very foolish for VM not to throttle certain customers. I recently lost a lot of data when one of my hard drives failed. My connection was throttled for a short time after exceeding 1000gb for a few weeks. Even when my connection was throttled I had no problem streaming netflix at "super HD" on 3 different computers/tv whilst other people downloading and utorrrent.

I think VM's policy is fair and even whilst throttled has a perfectly usable connection.
Standard User Stanman_24
(knowledge is power) Sat 30-Mar-13 10:48:08
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I don't think it is fair

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 30-Mar-13 14:28:09
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How is it not fair?

As far as I am concerned its not designed to be maxed out 24 hours a day.

If you want that sort of connection get a leased line installed.
Standard User Stanman_24
(knowledge is power) Sat 30-Mar-13 16:07:03
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so your saying that only people with leased lines can download as much as they want

defeats the object of adsl/dsl

are we going back to the 0800 56k days of a 1 hour cut off ?

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(deleted) Sat 30-Mar-13 16:18:26
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Absolute rubbish!! So you saying it is the object of broadband to leave the connection maxed out 24x7?
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