I can't speak for the other guy , but people trying to download the internet every day is what ruins it for those people who want to use it for more latency critical applications.

I have the option of 100MBit cable here ( no fttc as yet) but I remember my last dalliance with cable and thats when people could get 10 Mbit max. I won't go down that road again as VM don't seem to care that there are a couple of greedy [censored] maxing out the shared bandwidth so long as they can use their "unlimited " headline.

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I can't speak for the other guy , but people trying to download the internet every day is what ruins it for those people who want to use it for more latency critical applications.

I have the option of 100MBit cable here ( no fttc as yet) but I remember my last dalliance with cable and thats when people could get 10 Mbit max. I won't go down that road again as VM don't seem to care that there are a couple of greedy [censored] maxing out the shared bandwidth so long as they can use their "unlimited " headline.

The exact reason they now throttle these users.

you can interpret it however you like

why not cap instead of throttle

throttling opens up a whole can of worms that they don't have to justify concerning levels of service

Id much rather be throttled than capped because I do not incur further charges or have my internet cut off 3/4 of the way through the month.

I do not understand what you are talking about even when my connection has been throttled it is still significantly faster than most peoples connections operating at full speed. So what is the problem?

ADSL and DOCSIS (the system VM use) are shared services whereas a leased line runs directly from a business premises (usually) to a carrier point of presence which will have larger capacity or even multiple backhaul links from it that your average street cabinet will not have but the exchange might.

However companies are happy to pay far more for their connectivity than the average consumer.

Traffic management is therefore necessary to prevent those who want to max out their connection from causing other people's connections to slow though it does not always work out that way.

In the same way if you work within a company using a corporate LAN and tried to do what you dd on your home connection I can pretty much guarantee that sooner or later a member of your IT staff or your boss would be by your desk asking you to desist because your activity was slowing the network down.

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I haven't got a problem! I am just pointing out what you are saying makes no sense and is incorrect!! Any need is resorting to the use of obscenities?

Edited by deleted (Sun 31-Mar-13 11:27:58)

Totally unacceptable language for our forums....first and last warning.

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In reply to a post by kamelion:

I can't speak for the other guy , but people trying to download the internet every day is what ruins it for those people who want to use it for more latency critical applications.

I very rarely bother to comment on the digest I get every day from here. I think it's about 4 years since I joined.

I am having a good laugh at the con-ability of the Virgin fan club.

Virgin advertise speeds that they cannot supply. Virgin 'throttle' 'unlimited' services.

It is not up to customers of a product to be fair. It is up to the supplier to take all problems into account and supply a volume of product that is needed.

So that we can be clear about what Virgin is doing..... tarahhh! ..... a metaphor.

If you go into a restaurant and order a steak, you don't get served half a steak because they don't have enough to go around..... I hope, but with some restaurants check the DNA...

It's the same with Virgin. If they are at capacity in an area they should close sales until they can 'upgrade'.

It is really very simple and effective. It results in happy customers and with 'supply and demand' the product becomes more wanted and gains a higher 'value'.

I think that Virgin could probably charge 10% to 20% higher prices than they now do IF they actually supplied what people paid for.

There is a time when 'Fair Use' becomes 'Fraud' and Virgin may not be there yet but.....

They would also regain customers like myself for the premium products. Our current 30mb is more stable and provides what we pay for our 100mb was cutting out regularly and a lot of the time was slower than the 30mb is now.

Business 101 - you have to provide what you sell.

OK so I'll shut up for another year or so, being yet again peeved at being called a Troll or even a 'glove puppet' (whatever that is). I honestly will not be unaffected by the Virgin fan clubs abuse.

Above all be happy, life is far too short,

And Happy Easter, Eoster or whatever you celebrate today! Chocolate eggs and roast chicken always improve the Wa.

Jon

If you go into a restaurant and order a steak, you don't get served half a steak because they don't have enough to go around..... I hope, but with some restaurants check the DNA...

No , the restaurant informs the customers that the steak is off but instead you can have fish. The expectation is that not everyone will order steak in the same way that not everyone uses the internet for creating a collection of blu ray titles.

If you pay £5 for your steak you shouldn't be too disappointed when you don't get fillet