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Standard User francisuk25
(newbie) Mon 07-Apr-14 19:51:09
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Re: Does VM still have a FUP?


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Dos VM business network run on the residential aswell?

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(deleted) Mon 07-Apr-14 22:34:55
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Standard User JimKirk363
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 08-Apr-14 00:33:02
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Doesnt state what the upload rate is tho.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 08-Apr-14 01:55:59
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The thing is...I would never have gotten interested in MJ if VM had not bandied about that "Unlimited" thing for so long.

Perhaps I should have said that part of the quotation that one should get relating to expected speeds at a given location should be related to your connection if you actually USE it.

Those folks that want to use cloud services for backing up their data would be interested in such info I'm sure.

Simple Math shows that quoted throughput multiplied by time is a maximum capability of a connection measured in TB/month. Personally I expect to use about a quarter of that capability from time to time, sometimes a little more usually less but not great volumes at peak times. Sure, I could move this to a data center for 3 x price and 10 x Data but then the hobby is not so hands on and less interesting.

The bottom line is that folks need to know that because of the limitations obscured by small print or the recent lack of information relating to upload speed it is going to take longer than they might think to back up that single 1TB drive and that such an endeavour will have an impact on normal browsing at certain times of day . I do not think it unreasonable that such information is required to be quoted before folks join and I do feel that folks with such intentions will be better served by the likes of BT where I expect such use to have less of an impact.
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(deleted) Tue 08-Apr-14 09:18:26
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(deleted) Tue 08-Apr-14 21:39:55
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Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Wed 09-Apr-14 18:56:32
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something we agree on then, I have thought for a while isp's need to advertise in 'some way' the min expected speeds on their service (barring faults of course).

Looking at Comhem it looks great the way they show the speed ranges.

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(deleted) Thu 10-Apr-14 03:15:50
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In reply to a post by OldChapXS:
Perhaps I should have said that part of the quotation that one should get relating to expected speeds at a given location should be related to your connection if you actually USE it.

Simple Math shows that quoted throughput multiplied by time is a maximum capability of a connection measured in TB/month. Personally I expect to use about a quarter of that capability from time to time, sometimes a little more usually less but not great volumes at peak times. Sure, I could move this to a data center for 3 x price and 10 x Data but then the hobby is not so hands on and less interesting.

The bottom line is that folks need to know that because of the limitations obscured by small print or the recent lack of information relating to upload speed it is going to take longer than they might think to back up that single 1TB drive and that such an endeavour will have an impact on normal browsing at certain times of day.


Confused as to how people are to know their throughput at any period without actually using the thing. Downstream throughput should not be affected by upstream STM. No operator can tailor a quote to specific usage cases.

Not sure how running someone else's code to index web pages and serve search results is hands on but to each their own.

Triggering upstream STM should not slow browsing. Or are you referring to uploading at the same time as downloading?

I am not a fan of VM's policies but I am not sure what your issues are or how you reasonably expect a mass-market ISP to comply with them.
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(deleted) Thu 10-Apr-14 03:20:14
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In reply to a post by francisuk25:
Dos VM business network run on the residential aswell?


The cable does, and they use the same core network. Some bits in between business and core are unique to business.
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