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Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Sun 30-Oct-22 16:53:41
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Re: 3.1 upstream channel?


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VMs FTTP target dates still many years away do you think the system will hold out until then?

It is logical they going to basically stop investment on the current stuff as its effectively no longer the long term plan.

Standard User XGS_Is_On
(member) Sun 30-Oct-22 19:52:47
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Re: 3.1 upstream channel?


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VMs FTTP target dates still many years away do you think the system will hold out until then?


Yes. The existing spectrum is good for 2000/200 or more with 3.1. Nodes will still be split, just no additional spectrum added: that would cost nearly as much as the FTTP build.
Standard User RR_The_IT_Guy
(committed) Sun 30-Oct-22 23:39:08
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Re: 3.1 upstream channel?


[re: Chrysalis] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by Chrysalis:
VMs FTTP target dates still many years away do you think the system will hold out until then?

It is logical they going to basically stop investment on the current stuff as its effectively no longer the long term plan.


All I can say is Cambridgeshire is one of the first planned for FTTP overbuilds as I had the conversation with someone who "spilled the beans" under interrogation. To be fair my area must be up there as I can see all the streets around mine are currently undergoing VM FTTP overbuild.

Not sure why they upgraded our upstream to DOCSIS 3.1 over 4 months ago (I think it is now) if they just plan to FTTP in months to come.

I know my performance hasn't improved that much since the work.

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Edited by RR_The_IT_Guy (Sun 30-Oct-22 23:40:19)


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Standard User XGS_Is_On
(member) Mon 31-Oct-22 01:13:03
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Re: 3.1 upstream channel?


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Not sure why they upgraded our upstream to DOCSIS 3.1 over 4 months ago (I think it is now) if they just plan to FTTP in months to come.


Everyone isn't moving over at once. People will be moved as they ask to be. VM may prompt them but won't compel them for years.

VM have tens of thousands probably more customers served by the Cambridge heasend and its hubs. That's a lot of truck rolls to install FTTP.

The HFC will be operating for years yet even in the very earliest areas to receive FTTP, and there are plenty with build underway and some areas where much of it is finished and awaiting key equipment install then it's good to go.

The HFC will still be maintained and still receive some upgrades just not costly spectrum upgrade. The decision between spectrum and FTTP was an either/or, not both.
Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Mon 31-Oct-22 03:43:31
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Re: 3.1 upstream channel?


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In reply to a post by XGS_Is_On:
In reply to a post by Chrysalis:
VMs FTTP target dates still many years away do you think the system will hold out until then?


Yes. The existing spectrum is good for 2000/200 or more with 3.1. Nodes will still be split, just no additional spectrum added: that would cost nearly as much as the FTTP build.


Ok cool stuff. Its good they will still be willing to do node splits if needed.

Standard User Philce
(experienced) Mon 31-Oct-22 10:17:08
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Re: 3.1 upstream channel?


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Not far from you in Leic, on VM 1Gb, did have the 3.1 upstream channel, but now its gone!
HUB4, not seeing any issues to be fair, seems quite stable recently.

I also have a samknows whitebox, shows similar stable connection.

Upload tests for yesterday.

TIME UPLOAD SPEED (MT) TEST SERVER
23:46:25 52.7 Mbps n21-the1.samknows.com
22:46:27 52.3 Mbps n21-the1.samknows.com
21:46:26 52.2 Mbps n21-the1.samknows.com
20:46:25 51.7 Mbps n21-the1.samknows.com
19:46:31 52.4 Mbps n21-the1.samknows.com
18:46:25 52.5 Mbps n21-the1.samknows.com
15:45:57 52.4 Mbps n21-the1.samknows.com
12:46:57 52.6 Mbps n21-the1.samknows.com
09:45:30 52.3 Mbps n21-the1.samknows.com
06:45:59 52.7 Mbps n21-the1.samknows.com
03:45:47 52.7 Mbps n21-the1.samknows.com
00:45:04 52.3 Mbps n8-the1.samknows.com

Go figure...

3.0 Upstream channels
Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID
1 32600000 40.770599 5120 KSym/sec 64QAM 3
2 46200000 41.270599 5120 KSym/sec 64QAM 1
3 39400000 41.270599 5120 KSym/sec 64QAM 2
4 25800000 40.270599 5120 KSym/sec 64QAM 7


3.0 Upstream channels
Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts
1 US_TYPE_STDMA 0 0 4 0
2 US_TYPE_STDMA 0 0 3 0
3 US_TYPE_STDMA 0 0 6 0
4 US_TYPE_STDMA 0 0 6 0
Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Mon 31-Oct-22 15:46:03
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Re: 3.1 upstream channel?


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My weekday graph is almost like a permanent night time graph. There must have been a lot of work in my area here since I was last on VM. Today's windows updates downloaded in about 1-2 seconds at over 50MB/sec. I think I dont need any downstream shaping now on my firewall, if I do download activity its not visible on the graph or noticeable on interactive use.

My Broadband Ping

Good to see its pretty solid for you.

Standard User Philce
(experienced) Mon 31-Oct-22 16:17:18
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Re: 3.1 upstream channel?


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My weekday graph is almost like a permanent night time graph. There must have been a lot of work in my area here since I was last on VM. Today's windows updates downloaded in about 1-2 seconds at over 50MB/sec. I think I dont need any downstream shaping now on my firewall, if I do download activity its not visible on the graph or noticeable on interactive use.

My Broadband Ping

Good to see its pretty solid for you.


I thought mine was good! Your connection looks solid!

My Broadband Ping
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 31-Oct-22 17:50:24
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Re: 3.1 upstream channel?


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My weekday graph is almost like a permanent night time graph. There must have been a lot of work in my area here since I was last on VM.
very impressive !

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Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Mon 31-Oct-22 19:13:13
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Re: 3.1 upstream channel?


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Yours is better you do get max US 24/7, I just ran another test just before tucking in for an early night, this one was about 35mbps but as you can see ACK's still not affected for downloading.

Hopefully the 3.1 and 5th 3.0 channel wont be too long.

My Broadband Speed Test

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