In reply to a post by ukhardy07:

Hey - I went live today on gig with virgin.
Is a tuya app output helpful? Think it shows wattage voltage etc.

I presume that's measured at 230V AC with the brick.

For SuperHub 5, it might be still helpful. We have DC measurements for the ones we did ourselves. We have a reported AC measurement for SuperHub 4 already.

Would be useful to know the range - i.e. peak vs standard. Peak during sustained traffic would be useful in particular.

seb

Yes I noticed you asked for DC which I know is different to the AC. I wasn’t sure on the specifics so thought to ask if it would help at the outlet.

Anyway, I did a test at baseline (4 iPhones, 2 android. 6 smart bulbs, Alexa, 2 tvs on wifi none of them using the wifi for anything other than staying “online” eg not streaming Netflix). At 27 seconds in I ran a Speedtest on an iPhone 12 in the same room as the hub.

The highest measured wattage is 19.7. It fluctuates a fair bit. Don’t think the other stats will be too helpful given the use case but I don’t understand them all enough to know for sure.

Uploaded video of Tuya app overtime. I hope it helps a little:

https://vimeo.com/793664376

Speedtest was close to maxing out the line, so would assume 20 watts is where it’s designed to peak under load. Seems to be just below that.

https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/i/5465548725

In reply to a post by ukhardy07:

Speedtest was close to maxing out the line, so would assume 20 watts is where it’s designed to peak under load. Seems to be just below that.

https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/i/5465548725

So to confirm, AC measurement peaking 20W on SuperHub 5 under load?

In reply to a post by ukhardy07:

Yes I noticed you asked for DC which I know is different to the AC. I wasn’t sure on the specifics so thought to ask if it would help at the outlet.

Anyway, I did a test at baseline (4 iPhones, 2 android. 6 smart bulbs, Alexa, 2 tvs on wifi none of them using the wifi for anything other than staying “online” eg not streaming Netflix). At 27 seconds in I ran a Speedtest on an iPhone 12 in the same room as the hub.

The highest measured wattage is 19.7. It fluctuates a fair bit. Don’t think the other stats will be too helpful given the use case but I don’t understand them all enough to know for sure.

Uploaded video of Tuya app overtime. I hope it helps a little:

https://vimeo.com/793664376

The reason we measured DC was just as we were looking at using USB batteries to make a cheap power source.
14-20W from that video is useful still though as it shows the comparison to the rated current.
We do see Virgin router taking a fair bit more power interestingly.

Did you get idle load figures?

If no one provides idle, I will hook up a watt meter to mine, but bit awkward with location so was hoping others would give you the data.

Yes, 20 watts under load.

The cable network is quite power hungry with the channel bonding etc. generally cable modems seem to use around this amount of power. At least, xfinity in the USA is around 20 watts also (2018 hub).

With nothing on the wifi - but turned on it comes in at 12.4 watts.

Edited by ukhardy07 (Mon 30-Jan-23 22:35:08)

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

Did you get idle load figures?

If no one provides idle, I will hook up a watt meter to mine, but bit awkward with location so was hoping others would give you the data.

The 14-20W range is fine. More data the better to revise that but we can't be perfect on this.

seb

In reply to a post by ukhardy07:

Yes, 20 watts under load.
The cable network is quite power hungry with the channel bonding etc. generally cable modems seem to use around this amount of power. At least, xfinity in the USA is around 20 watts also (2018 hub).
With nothing on the wifi - but turned on it comes in at 12.4 watts.

To be fair FTTP require a little bit more than pure router although it's not THAT much.. but it is interesting. I wonder if we should do a comparison for annual 'hidden' costs of cable broadband on your electricity bill

seb

I would say, that virginmedia actually have it quite efficient. There are hubs out there using 25+.

If we take xfinity (Comcast owner) and their supported devices list: https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/internet-eq...

Filter by wireless AC standard as a minimum & 3.1 support. IE filter to include IAD D3.1 and WiFi(ac).
On their site, the TG3482G - It reports an idle power of 27.4w!