In reply to a post by Pheasant:

Which have you done? Huawei or Nokia-Alcatel?

Huawei. Took an Openreach 4 port, got console, took the customisation and cloned serial onto my own slightly later version Huawei 4 port with a 2.5G interface between optics and switch - the Openreach kit has a 1G backplane.

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Edited by CarlTSpeak (Fri 31-Dec-21 23:04:21)

Cool. Did you only spoof the serial from the donor ONT or did you need any other details to get auth working on the replacement? I’m reliably told Openreach just check the serial number and that’s it.

Took the BT customisations from the file system and amended some parameters as well to match the Openreach kit.

No idea if necessary or not but kept the equipment as close as possible to Openreach in every way possible. Later revision of hardware, matching configuration in every way.

When you SSH’d into the ONT were you still hooked up to the PON / in operation state 5? Presumably they use the same IP and username and passcode as the sticks?

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

When you SSH’d into the ONT were you still hooked up to the PON / in operation state 5? Presumably they use the same IP and username and passcode as the sticks?

The donor I acquired, opened up and connected to its console, just UART serial. Still had default Huawei credentials. Once firewall disabled could then log in using the same details and default IP address.

The newer kit is just logged into as a web console. It has no concept of routing the management traffic so you have to be connected to the same subnet but log in and you can change the serial number freely from the GUI.

EDIT: I can log in freely to the newer model, the firewall is a part of the customisations for BT in their own model. As it's dead equipment now no-one cares. The ONT reports the right things at the right time to the OLT, harms no-one and does no damage.

It was only required due to errors with the PON deployment here. For the cost of about £100 in ONTs and patch cabling it was a quite interesting intellectual exercise too.

Edited by CarlTSpeak (Sat 01-Jan-22 14:31:59)

This is on my list of things to experiment with, and there is a Huawei 1-port ONT where I currently have some time to work on it.

There is however no point my investing the time in figuring out a Huawei solution if my main location turns out to be Nokia. Is there a way to find out short of having a service installed?

In reply to a post by ft247:

There is however no point my investing the time in figuring out a Huawei solution if my main location turns out to be Nokia. Is there a way to find out short of having a service installed?

Not unless your neighbour on the same PON can tell you.

Some places are using the existing Huawei OLT that's in their exchange. Other areas are having new Nokia OLT's installed.

My PON (installed last year under the retro new site work) is Huawei.
My exchange is having a Nokia OLT installed and Openreach have my exchange marked as having FTTP by 2023 so I expect surrounding streets will be on Nokia kit.

There's also ADTRAN kit that could be used in future.

Short of stealing Mystic Megs crystal ball there's no way to tell for definite.

Edited by j0hn83 (Sun 02-Jan-22 12:18:58)

Thanks, I thought as much.

Take-up is very low on my street - Community Fibre beat Openreach to market by 6 weeks, but BT Wholesale are still showing 'planned', almost six months later. We are still on the list to go FTTP Priority at the end of April 22, so I guess they'll have to sort it by then.

The exchange (SW London, mostly residential) area is substantially complete (with the exception of one estate that is probably DIG copper) yet BTW are nowhere to be seen! I have seen one port used on a CBT a street over but apart from that there is minimal OR FTTP take-up.

In short sadly there's no neighbour I can ask.

I have read this thread with interest, having just signed up to Giganet/CityFibre. There is a lot of new geeky stuff for me to learn!

Naive question - does using a different ONT increase the speed at all? It seems a coincidence that the max speed of the CityFibre connections is ~900Mbps which is almost the same as the real speed of gigabit (and the speed of the GPON ONT that they provide). @CarlTSpeak, you mentioned your Huawei 4-port ONT has 2.5Gbe - does it enable you to get higher speeds, or are they limiting it further upstream?

In reply to a post by ft247:

This is on my list of things to experiment with, and there is a Huawei 1-port ONT where I currently have some time to work on it.

There is however no point my investing the time in figuring out a Huawei solution if my main location turns out to be Nokia. Is there a way to find out short of having a service installed?

Reckon it will be Nokia. They’ve pretty much now done away with Huawei ONTs for any new installs and Nokia appears to be the default even on a Huawei OLT. All due to Huawei being persona non grata and strict caps/limits on volumes and their future involvement in our 5G and broadband infra.