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Standard User technewb
(newbie) Tue 04-Jan-22 13:08:56
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Re: Avoiding a phone in a cupboard


[re: Pheasant] [link to this post]
 
Excellent, that is good news! I am short some cables so I might need to purchase some extras so quick query on that front. At the moment, the phone is plugged into the router with an RJ11 which is RJ11 at both ends. Previously, the phone was plugged into the white ONT box with RJ11 at the shuttered end, but within the box at the other end of that cable was what I think is an RJ45 (flatter and wider than the RJ11 connection). Will this make any difference?

So what I plan to do at the moment is run an RJ11 from Phone1 to the shuttered port in the cupboard, then run an RJ11 from the shutter by the table to the phone, and you think this should work? (sorry for clarification, like to keep it all super simple so I don't end up with tons of cables I don't need!)
Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Tue 04-Jan-22 14:50:01
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Re: Avoiding a phone in a cupboard


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Those are euro modules outlets that snap into the faceplate. The module on the right side of the wall plate, where you said the phone was previously connected, looks to be a typical BT outlet. Ditto the outlet shown in the cupboard. It’s not an RJ11. It should accept a standard BT (431A) plug, usually white, with the retaining tang on the short side of the connector.

The equipment (handset and Hyper’s router) will typically have an RJ11 connector - the plug is transparent, with the retaining tang on the opposite side of the plug to the contacts (6 position with 4 contacts).

Check that is what you have (slide the shutter up on the outlet) but i reckon all you need is two RJ11 to BT (431A) adapter cables. Typically available on somewhere like Amazon or CPC-Farnell for a few quid each.

Edited by Pheasant (Tue 04-Jan-22 14:54:34)

Standard User jpm
(committed) Tue 04-Jan-22 16:23:41
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Re: Avoiding a phone in a cupboard


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You should have the cable you need already if you connected the ONT to the phone socket previously. Hyperoptic should have included an RJ11 to BT socket adapter with their router to present the phone socket as the correct type for the UK.


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Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Tue 04-Jan-22 19:20:43
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Re: Avoiding a phone in a cupboard


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In reply to a post by jpm:
Hyperoptic should have included an RJ11 to BT socket adapter with their router to present the phone socket as the correct type for the UK.

Doesn’t look as though they do…include any voice cables.

https://www.hyperoptic.com/faq/posts/setting-up-your...

Previous Openreach FVA cable would have a BT plug rather than RJ11
Standard User DanielCoffey67
(member) Wed 05-Jan-22 07:23:28
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I do hope you get the placement sorted out nicely but I wanted to thank you for giving me a chuckle... Your comment of "the old FTTP box..." made me smile. For many people, anything "FTTP" is from the future... way-in-the-future tech!
Standard User j0hn83
(knowledge is power) Wed 05-Jan-22 10:00:25
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In reply to a post by DanielCoffey67:
I do hope you get the placement sorted out nicely but I wanted to thank you for giving me a chuckle... Your comment of "the old FTTP box..." made me smile. For many people, anything "FTTP" is from the future... way-in-the-future tech!


It's an enclosure that hasn't been used for a few years. It contained a battery that's no longer supplied for a product that no longer exists.

I think that qualifies as old (belonging to the past; former). smile
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 05-Jan-22 10:37:31
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In reply to a post by j0hn83:
In reply to a post by DanielCoffey67:
I do hope you get the placement sorted out nicely but I wanted to thank you for giving me a chuckle... Your comment of "the old FTTP box..." made me smile. For many people, anything "FTTP" is from the future... way-in-the-future tech!
It's an enclosure that hasn't been used for a few years. It contained a battery that's no longer supplied for a product that no longer exists.

I think that qualifies as old (belonging to the past; former). smile
oh John, Daniel's post was funny until you added your post frown
Standard User pluralist
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 05-Jan-22 10:44:07
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Re: Avoiding a phone in a cupboard


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And there was me thinking the way to avoid a phone in a cupboard was to close the cupboard door.

Connections: OnePlus 8 Pro on Three 4+ (LTE)/5G and at home Three Mobile, with (Three)ZTE MF286D router giving about 113/20Mbps.
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Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Wed 05-Jan-22 11:19:28
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In reply to a post by j0hn83:
In reply to a post by DanielCoffey67:
I do hope you get the placement sorted out nicely but I wanted to thank you for giving me a chuckle... Your comment of "the old FTTP box..." made me smile. For many people, anything "FTTP" is from the future... way-in-the-future tech!


It's an enclosure that hasn't been used for a few years. It contained a battery that's no longer supplied for a product that no longer exists.

I think that qualifies as old (belonging to the past; former). smile

OP could re-use the backup battery just run the output lead from the BBU to the ‘new’ 😅 ZTE router which has 12V input, probably the same size barrel connector.

Hey presto some backup power for free and good use of all that ‘ancient’ tech from 2018 🤩
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 05-Jan-22 11:34:38
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In reply to a post by pluralist:
And there was me thinking the way to avoid a phone in a cupboard was to close the cupboard door.
laugh
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