In reply to a post by gap300:

Thing is looking at sipgate call rates it will not work for me as it is 1.18 for landlines and 9.90 for mobiles (call forward)

Warning I may be confused here...

...just do not use Sipgate for outgoing calls if the rates are too high. I am not sure why you would still need to do any call forwarding?

You would have voip app on your mobile phone that would ring when someone would call on your landline number (that would need data allowance on your mobile). This means your landline number would be travelling wherever your mobile goes.

If you want to phone anyone back just use the normal mobile phone dialler (that would need voice allowance on your mobile).

The only "gotcha" would be having to perhaps remember (or copy/paste) phone number of your potential clients from VOIP app to normal dialler for returning calls.

Not knowing how VOIP apps work perhaps some apps allow you to configure outgoing dialler or there is a more elegant solution existing VOIP users know of?

Can of worms opening - you could also use a different VOIP provider for outgoing calls (some only charge 1p/minute for mobiles and free for landline numbers). Sipgate is not the only provider a different one may be better especially for business use. This is just probably making thing over complicated especially starting out.

No you are totally correct, I would use my mobile to call anyone back

So my sipgate calls I would answer on my mobile with no call forwarding charges

And I would use the app mentioned earlier

Thanks peeps some absolute legends here

Edited by gap300 (Wed 19-Jan-22 14:11:08)

Sipgate Basic account (free) + Acrobits softphone app. £5.99

That’s honestly all you need right now and in future. No more handsets or hardware.

As said above, you can setup/get both now and get yourself up and running. No need to wait for anything to do with your existing Plusnet or FTTP. The porting etc comes later.

Edited by Pheasant (Wed 19-Jan-22 14:15:02)

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

Sipgate Basic account (free) + Acrobits softphone app. £5.99

That’s honestly all you need.

Yeah - I second this ^^

In reply to a post by gap300:

a. Ok I have just cancelled the BT installation and called Plusnet to 'uncancel'
b. BT have told me to call back in 48 hours to rebook a FTTP only installation
c. I will setup a sipgate basic account today
d. Just clarify something for me please, I do not need to have a working landline handset at home all calls will be always answered at my mobile even when I am at home
e. If I ever miss a call I always just call back using my mobile
f. What 'handset' do I need to purchase? and what app will I use on my mobile?
g. Sorry have just seen the post above, but still a bit puzzled as was mentioned earlier there would be no call forwarding charges?

a. If I was you this is what I would have done
b. I would be doing everything possible to not mention your current landline number - if they want a contact number use a mobile number?
c. This is how I plan to learn, get a free account and try it out using a Windows and/or android softphone.
d. Yes - the future!
e. Yep
f. Just use your current Android phone. Zoiper and Acrobits all seem to have a good reputation there may be others more suited? Acrobits may have a small one off charge. DYOR I have not tried anything yet as I am still waiting for a full fibre provider.
g. Assuming I have understood I do not see why you need call forward. [pheasant has replied I have nothing to add ;) apart from reiterating you need to test before committing - easy with Sipgate Basic as you get a free number to test things out - you probably need to add £10 credit that is it £6 for Acrobits if you do not get a 30 day trial. Remember do not get over excited - do not port your number to Sipgate until after you have tested VOIP and your full fibre is working. Worse case you may have to pay for another month of Plusnet.]

Edited by think26872 (Wed 19-Jan-22 14:23:53)

Remember do not get over excited - do not port your number to Sipgate until after you have tested VOIP and your full fibre is working. Worse case you may have to pay for another month of Plusnet.

Good advice.

One other thing to note, Sipgate offer free voicemail.
If someone leaves you a voicemail, it can be emailed to you as a MP3 attachment, which is very handy.

The only other thing I need to work out now is how to get the app on my phone - OnePlus 7 Pro

I am using Lineage 18 ungoogled (I have the aurora store through F Droid) every app on my phone is FOSS

app purchases are not available on anonymous accounts (Aurora Store)

I never do things the easy way

In reply to a post by gap300:

The only other thing I need to work out now is how to get the app on my phone - OnePlus 7 Pro

I am using Lineage 18 ungoogled (I have the aurora store through F Droid) every app on my phone is FOSS

app purchases are not available on anonymous accounts (Aurora Store)

I never do things the easy way

You may struggle especially if you are completely Googleless. Zoiper and Acrobits may rely on Google facilities for notification of calls and purchase authorisation etc.

I am sure there are FOSS VOIP apps available though.

Lineage may have SIP accounts built in so you may not need Zoiper or Acrobits. In the Dialler view Settings and look for Calling Accounts and then Sip Settings. Warning though all the features that may save you from firewall and CGNAT problems will not be present for the built in Dialler so test, test and test again.

Let us know how it goes.

Edited by think26872 (Wed 19-Jan-22 14:36:04)

Another legend spotted @think26872

https://postimg.cc/MMK4YX08

Edited by gap300 (Wed 19-Jan-22 14:45:53)

In reply to a post by gap300:

Another legend spotted

Thanks but most of what I know I have learned from this forum so credit goes to everyone who has help me in the past also. I just hope that one day I can put it into practice - if there are any full fibre gods please answer my prayers and do me next!