I appreciate you have put all your eggs in the Voipfone basket and your setup is more complexed than the average joe but I honestly don't understand why you threw your toys out of the pram over the below post, it was a vaild concern by a knowledgeable member of the forum. These issue can't be swept under the carpet as if they never happened.

In reply to a post by jchamier:

I worry when everything is free, does the provider have the ability to handle the "big bad" when it occurs?? This happened recently to Voipfone and others.

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2021/10/voip-p...

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2021/09/ddos-a...

And why pay extrotionate rates when for a small monthly fee you can save considerably.

Sipgate - 9.9p/minute for UK mobiles. VOIPify - 1.2p/minutes

US mobiles: 1.9 cpompared to 1.0

UK landlines: 1.18 compared to 0.5

In reply to a post by MHC:

And why pay extrotionate rates when for a small monthly fee you can save considerably.

Sipgate - 9.9p/minute for UK mobiles. VOIPify - 1.2p/minutes

US mobiles: 1.9 cpompared to 1.0

UK landlines: 1.18 compared to 0.5

I suppose it depends on your expected usage. I never make any outbound calls via the landline and so Sipgate is the best deal for me.

Totally different if you expect to be making calls to UK mobiles as you say

In reply to a post by MHC:

And why pay extrotionate rates when for a small monthly fee you can save considerably.

Sipgate - 9.9p/minute for UK mobiles. VOIPify - 1.2p/minutes

US mobiles: 1.9 cpompared to 1.0

UK landlines: 1.18 compared to 0.5

Depends who you call I guess. If you’re a heavy user, calling lots of mobiles then it may be worth it.

Although most people would never dream of calling mobiles using their landline/VOIP.

In which case, if someone were a *very* heavy mobile and landline caller it would make sense to add their UK Call Package for £9.95 then you could have unlimited calls to UK mobile and landlines.

If people want cheap (pay as you go) outgoing calls then I don't think you can beat Discountvoip.co.uk for their pricing, used in conjunction with something like a Gigaset N300 IP for routing specific outgoing calls.

Or just make outgoing calls on your mobile, where unlimited calling packages are cheap (e.g. Lebara: £4.90 per month). If your mobile supports wifi calling then coverage isn't an issue.

In fact, you may as well receive incoming "landline" VoIP calls on your mobile too, with an app like Acrobits Softphone or Groundwire. Then you don't need an ATA and can throw away all your analogue handsets.

In reply to a post by candlerb:

Or just make outgoing calls on your mobile

Not everybody has or wants a mobile.

In reply to a post by dect:

In reply to a post by candlerb:

Or just make outgoing calls on your mobile

Not everybody has or wants a mobile.

And with the removal of copper PSTN connections there will be a lot more moving to VoIP who do not have a mobile - I know of several older people, in their 80s & 90s who do not and will not have a mobile and when te time comes I will need to get them onto te right VoIP package.

And with the removal of copper PSTN connections there will be a lot more moving to VoIP who do not have a mobile - I know of several older people, in their 80s & 90s who do not and will not have a mobile and when te time comes I will need to get them onto te right VoIP package.

That's the sort of consumer I think may be best served by an "all in one" package from an ISP, e.g. BT / Virgin / etc, whom can understand elderly people and have history in supporting. I wouldn't give my grandparents an AAISP VoIP account for example.