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I have a mobile and network which works very well with WiFi calling (1p mobile on EE) but gf's mobile on Lebara/Vodafone doesn't work despite them saying it should.
p.s. I've tried her sim in my phone and that doesn't work with wifi calling either, apparently it's a problem with Vodafone.
p.p.s. In the days of my FTTC it was always amusing seeing a OR engineer wandering down the road trying to get a signal.

Lebara wifi calling only works in Switzerland. I might try the next time I go there.

Lebara WiFi calling works for some in UK, it should work for gf (she has had sms telling her it will work) and on my phone but if the phone isn't supplied by Vodafone it often doesn't work even if that model of phone is supported.
https://mobile.lebara.com/gb/en/wifi-volte

On lebara.ch which I bought my Sim from it says:

"Can I use Wi-Fi Calling abroad, at an Internet café for example?

Currently you can only use WI-Fi Calling in WLAN networks within Switzerland. Wi-Fi Calling abroad is not possible; i.e. connecting abroad is always done via mobile signal and roaming charges will apply."

Interestingly if I put a Tesco Sim in the phone, then when I go to the Sim settings, there is a option to select Wifi calling. The option is not shown for the Lebara sim.

Maybe I should try the Lebara chat and see if they will enable Wifi calling for me.

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With VOIP I can have several phones which are kept in a fixed position and I can easily find one to make a call or answer if it rings. The problem with mobile phones is that they need a mobile radio signal which is quite probably available in urban areas but less so in rural areas.

I've pretty much retired all my Cisco IP* phones since house renovation / pandemic. Although they were great I really haven't missed them as much as I thought I would.

In Suffolk we're lucky to get one bar of service inside the house from any of the mobile networks. Since early doors we've used Vodafone SureSignal's (femtocells repeaters now retired. byVF) but then transitioned to WiFi calling when that became widely available (must be 7 or more years now) which - as long as your network and handset supports it - works great.

* I'm overdue building a new Asterisk instance/box which I need to get patched up, then I may bring the old 9971 beasts back out

I had a Vodafone SureSignal which I managed to get them to send me for free when I renewed the contracts. It was good at first but unfortunately it stopped working. I suppose I was lucky that it was not one of those that caught fire. They stopped the service not long afterwards.

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. . . gf's mobile on Lebara/Vodafone doesn't work despite them saying it should.

I recently signed up to Lebara (which is a white label seller for Vodafone) and had to cancel as soon as I tried the sim. According to the Lebara customer service WiFi calling only worked on Android 11 so my mobile on Android 10 was out of scope.

Since I left I've had a text from Lebara saying that WiFi calling is now enabled for me so maybe there has been a fix rolled out in the last few days.

As a side note, WiFi calling was enabled from day 1 on Asda Mobile (also VF re-seller) after I moved from Lebara.

Edit: Further to your last post, my phone is a Samsung originally supplied by Three. I've got a dual sim set-up (1 x Vodafone and 1 x Asda Mobile) and WiFi calling works on both sims.

I'm an ex Vodafone customer, after several contacts with them about WiFi calling they admit that they will not guarantee it works unless you buy the phone from them, for those with sim free or unlocked phones it's a lottery.

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I'm an ex Vodafone customer, after several contacts with them about WiFi calling they admit that they will not guarantee it works unless you buy the phone from them, for those with sim free or unlocked phones it's a lottery.

Unless its an iPhone, as Apple forces standardisation that is not the same with Android unfortunately.

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They stopped the service not long afterwards.

They were a nightmare to get working as they used network protocols not designed to go through Network Address Translation, and they wouldn't tell you anything about it for "security reasons".

Thankfully all the networks have pretty much closed their femto cell offerings as they were all 3G, and 3G is going (next year for EE & Vodafone).

I haven't used my landline number for outgoing calls for years, the few calls I do make are more than covered by my monthly mobile allowance. When I moved to FTTP i did port the old number to sigate basic , Partly because I have had the same number for 30 years, though the only regular (non-junk) calls are from my parents as they get inclusive calls to landlines but not mobiles.

If Sipgate start charging much more than a nominal £10/year comparable to domain registrations then I will just dump the number.

I have a dual sim phone with a French Reglomobile sim using Vodaphone and this has both Wi-Fii and 4G calling enabled and working. Previously I had an Asda sim on Vodaphone and this too allowed Wi-Fi calling.
The other sim is with 1pMobile and Wi-Fi calling is enabled but the preference is shown as 'Call over mobile network' unlike the French sim which shows Call over Wi-Fi as the preference. Strangely 4G calling is not shown as an option. Nevertheless it works well for calls and SMS.

However I am contemplating switching both sims to Lebara in their respective countries and the difficulties others describe are a bit offputting especially if Wi-Fi calling does not work when out of country so I will have to tread carefully to not lose functionality. This in addition to juggling the roaming policy of UK networks.

UK roaming policies post Brexit are not user friendly compared with the French networks who lump UK in with all other EU countries for their call and data allowances when out of country and are much more generous.

I am on starter / Basic and pay the £9.95 for unlimited calls.

Just got this from Sipgate

Hello Kevin,

We at sipgate are standardizing our tariff model. In the future, there will only be three business tariffs S, L and XL. Your tariff starter will be discontinued, the changeover will be automatic.

As a thank you for using sipgate starter, we would like to grant you a 20% discount on the new tariff in the first year.

This is what will change for you:

Old contract: starter with UK allnet flat rate
New contract: business L with UK allnet flat rate (incl. UK mobile service)
New price: £11.96 /month per user (excl. VAT) thereafter £14.95 per user (excl. VAT)
Discount in the first 12 months after conversion: 20%
Date of changeover: 01/01/2023

If that's the going rate (as my mobile costs me less per month and gives me more), then it will be farewell Sipgate when the day comes...