In reply to a post by trolleybus:

In reply to a post by Icgaln:

If 1 hours usage = 36p and the phone gets used for 5 hours a day on average then each day would cost us, on average, £1.80?

Multiply this by 28 days per month and each month would cost us, on average, £50?

So the way I see it, paying £24 a month is a pretty good deal or am I missing something?

Either the batteries in my calculator needs changing or maybe your device as your figures are suspect.

5 hours is 300 minutes. Voipfone call rate to 01/02/03 numbers is 1.2 ppm
300 * 1.2 = 360p or £3.60 a day. £3.60 * 30 days = £10.80 pm
However, all of the calls, or at least some, could be to mobile number costing 8 ppm which would skew the total call spend. It assumes that there were no calls to Crown Dependency landlines which are excluded from the plan.

If all calls happened to be to mobile numbers, then I see the costs escalating almost 10 times.
300 * 8.4 = 2772p or £27.72 a day. That would be a bill of £83.16 for the month; but that could hit fair usage policies.

So, yes a fixed fee of £24 a month could be a bargain if the range of numbers was indeed 01/02/03/07, but it seems 03 numbers are excluded as the numbers included in the package is defined as UK landlines or mobiles,

I would say that 5 hours usage per day ever day is pretty unusual anyway, but if true might hit the buffers with a fair usage policy.

Your calculator needs fixing ....

£3.60 per day for 30 days is £108 - simple check 3*30=90 4*30=120

In reply to a post by Icgaln:

Unfortunately my Virgin bill does not seem to split the cost of each service to separate amounts so all it tells me is that I’m currently paying around £120 a month but that is for TV, Broadband and Landline Phone.

The enormous 9,000 minutes of, calls made, per month is a bit of a curve ball.

If Virgin Media allowed this level of calls perhaps it is possible that the Voipfone £24.00 inclusive package may also allow this high usuage or even higher. (I would have guessed at a limit of 3000 minutes per month but it does not say in the Voipfone T&C). - It is certainly worth checking with Voipfone before you join them.

If not the question is: how bad is the Latency with Virgin Media who you were paying £120.00 per month all in ?

We have the full Sky Q Package, (including two extra multiroom mini boxes boxes and BT Sport), for £100,00 per month, (discounted/mid-deal), plus Zen 900 mbps FTTP, (price for life), at just over £50.00 per month and Voipify, (including the base cost and less than 300 minutes of calls per month), costs under £6.00 per month which is a total of £156.00 per month all in.

Your unlimited call deal with Virgin Media costs £36.00 less per month and apparently you can make a stonking 9,000 minutes of calls per month.

If Voipfone do allow 9,000 minute of ca lls per month for £24.00 then OK.

If Voipfone or others do not and Virgin Medua do, perhaps, a rethink is in order.

Edited by Fido (Sun 11-Jun-23 01:12:07)

There is also something of an assumption that the 5 hours per day is all outgoing, if any of it is incoming then the other party would be paying for the call.

Also, VoipFone Unlimited Ts&Cs can be found here under the heading "Allowable Use (Voipfone Unlimited)". No specific maximum call amounts but it does say if it isn't normal compared to other business customers then they may take action.

Never understood why they don't just explicitly say what their acceptable limit is rather they use the word 'unlimited' as the vast majority have a FUP.

In reply to a post by dect:

Never understood why they don't just explicitly say what their acceptable limit is rather they use the word 'unlimited' as the vast majority have a FUP.

I agree, but if they keep it woolly they can go after the top x% users and always clear out the heaviest users.