I believe you can still order a copper voice service if on LLU (according to my ISP anyway, not actually tested it)

Yup this doesn't apply to LLU. Even though they will be pushed to move away from it

I imagine there will be a split amongst the LLU providers between those who are being even more aggressive than BT to get people off analogue voice, and those who see an opportunity to sweat their investment for as long as possible by offering PSTN services to customers at an ever increasing monthly price because they are desperate to keep their lifts connected to an emergency phone.

In reply to a post by jpm:

and those who see an opportunity to sweat their investment for as long as possible by offering PSTN services to customers at an ever increasing monthly price because they are desperate to keep their lifts connected to an emergency phone.

This will sadly happen. You talk to 10 people in the street who have a landline and i suspect 7/10 will not even have heard of whats happening next year.

In reply to a post by copex:

there is no way to move or get a new copperservice installed since september 2023

That is definitely not the case here (Grange over Sands) "copper" was the only option we had when getting a new line recently. Fibre wasn't available at all (local cabinet full for FTTC) and FTTP not available from the exchange.

tbf i only know as i follow tech sites and sites like this. Without them im not sure i would know

In reply to a post by jpm:

I imagine there will be a split amongst the LLU providers

Who is left? You’ve got TalkTalk and Sky and Openreach in my local exchange. Sky focus on FTTC/FTTP, so perhaps its just TalkTalk whom are running exchange based LLU PSTN ?

And if/when Openreach shutdown the main exchange based PSTN, who knows if the LLU PSTN will still work if it was designed to use an Openreach interface in the same exchange?

Edited by jchamier (Mon 26-Feb-24 19:28:10)

In reply to a post by bobble_bob:

tbf i only know as i follow tech sites and sites like this. Without them im not sure i would know

I would echo that and if I had fttp years ago, i would be on tbb much so that info would have passed me by untill it hit the bbc/sky news. The tech news i normally cover has little to do with telecoms

AFAIK MPF isn't being withdrawn as a product until the exchanges start to close down, so people like TalkTalk Wholesale can get another five years out of it.

https://wholesale.talktalk.co.uk/resources/news-insi...

End customers don't *really* need to know much about PSTN closing, their provider should be handling it all for them and abstracting the complicated bits away.

In reply to a post by jpm:

AFAIK MPF isn't being withdrawn as a product until the exchanges start to close down, so people like TalkTalk Wholesale can get another five years out of it.

https://wholesale.talktalk.co.uk/resources/news-insi...

End customers don't *really* need to know much about PSTN closing, their provider should be handling it all for them and abstracting the complicated bits away.

Exchange closures will be done a exchange by exchange basis. Good Service providers would do that, bad ones not so much