Mate I dont blame you.

It is now 11.00pm an I am still under 1/3 of my normal download speed, this is taking the [censored] already.

Steve, do you care do offer an explination as to why this is still so slow?

It's not about Ace-Internet not being able to offer unlimited though - it's what they're doing as a result of it. Streaming may use less bandwith than P2P, but why give the bandwith to streaming and not P2P? Just because a P2P file can be downloaded over a longer period of time? But then as I said, there's nothing stopping the stream users from going and watching a television or watching a recorded version of the game when they get home.

I think I read that Ace is asking for user feedback. Perhaps if enough users say p2p is more important, you can get the priorieties set according to what you are suggesting. My guess is that many users would disagree with you.

P2P is hit because it takes up lots of bandwidth, thats the only reason.

If P2P apps would die tomorrow I bet there would be a lot of smug ISP's around, thing is something else would take its place and they'd just have to deal with the bandwidth from that.

They think it's acceptable to cap P2P because it's largest and most frequent use is for warez, but it's got legal uses as well, most torrent mirrors of perfectly legal files, such a large demos are god send when the mirrors get so bogged down you can't get on them.

I've seen some massive windows vista torrents for the open beta 2 *edit - wasnt a leak*, if it wasn't for them Im bettering microsoft would have probably taken down their mirrors all together. Most linux distros are done via P2P and quite frankly I struggle to find good mirrors for any popular content now a days.

I don't really know what applications use a LOT of bandwidth other than other downloads, why should I go from 400ks/ torrents on peak to 20k/s

Are the people browsing and reading emails really needing that other 380k/s? No... it's going towards ftp, http downloads, why are they more important?

Edited by Princess_Frosteh (Thu 15-Jun-06 23:43:02)

P2P is hit because it takes up lots of bandwidth, thats the only reason.

Absolutely, especially with Max coming online. Compound it by the fact that you don't have to sit at your computer... it can just carry on and on while you are at work, asleep, etc.

You may have seen this elsewhere, but here's a primer on the costs:

http://www.adsleconomics101.org.uk/cost.html

and excerpt from this article:

"Putting this into perspective; if you expect to saturate your line 24/7, it costs your ISP an absolute minimum of

Edited by deleted (Fri 16-Jun-06 00:00:47)

I'm aware of the costs, the costs should be lower from BT

The more I use the internet the more I'm convinced its doomed in the UK

But how soon will we hear of what Ace-Internet is considering? How long can they keep up the strict limits on P2P users?

The obvious one would be to kick off the heaviest users, if they really have downloaded one terrabyte. I believe that there is "heavy" and "heavy" and the real heavy users might want to consider limiting what they do.. Or surely Ace-Internet could ask for maybe donations or ask that the heaviest users pay more.

And is traffic caching an optioon?

I don't actually think that many users would disagree with me - I believe that a majority of AceInternets customers are P2Pers.. Why would paying a considereably high price for unlimited, non restricted or managed appeal to any other sort of user?

The more I use the internet the more I'm convinced its doomed in the UK

I agree with you. We are in big trouble if bandwidth prices stay the way they are for another year or two.

I don't actually think that many users would disagree with me - I believe that a majority of AceInternets customers are P2Pers.. Why would paying a considereably high price for unlimited, non restricted or managed appeal to any other sort of user?

I don't know what Ace will ultimately do. However, this whole episode will shake a few of the heaviest users off as they go looking for the next great deal. That's why I suggested to another user to sit tight for a month or so to see how things shape up.

And bandwith prices are high because of Ofcom - right?

So really, Ace-Internet would be clever if they arranged some sort of lobbying of Ofcom so that prices become lower?