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I've been with bethere since 2007 and not had much problems with there service, I live 218 meters from my exchange and get the full 24meg with gaming mode on, The problem is i suffer alot of lag in games, I can never seem to get a lag free game on call of duty, Weather its cod4 or waw or mw2 or blops and also on bfbc, I've used the bebox and also a netgear router, Setup in upnp and also dmz, To no avail i still suffer lag alot, My only thought is that the be network is overcrowded.

So now i'm thinking of looking for another isp for gaming that doesn't have an overloaded network, Does anyone have any recommendations?

I don't recall ever seeing Be users complaining about lag. Good latency is one of their main selling points.

Do you run the tbb BQM, (Broadband Quality Monitor)? It's possible you have a line problem and that might tell us something.

Also monitoring your noise levels with RouterStats would be a good idea.

Your full line stats from your BeBox would be useful.

from my personal experience BE is the best for gaming,Im with Virgin now and i do regret i left BE.althogh i had no probs with BT 3 years ago.

I'm not using the bebox at the moment, Only the netgear with these stats.

Port Status TxPkts RxPkts Collisions Tx B/s Rx B/s Up Time
WAN DHCP Client 95465 168777 0 2592 13222 01:48:40
LAN 10M/100M 165034 96206 0 13610 2497 01:49:35
WLAN 11M/54M 0 0 0 0 0 00:00:00

ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 24086 kbps 1321 kbps
Line Attenuation 13.5 db 7.9 db
Noise Margin 6.1 db 6.8 db

I've setup the BQM and also routerstats.

On the WAN setup section in the Netgear GUI, try unticking "Disable Port Scan and DOS Protection"

In reply to a post by nredwood:

On the WAN setup section in the Netgear GUI, try unticking "Disable Port Scan and DOS Protection"

I don't have that option in the WAN menu, I also have the spi firewall disabled.

Have you looked at the pings via a PC? i.e. using the ping command, if latency is bad due to the ISP then it should show up.

BE isn't overloaded. I play WoW, COD 4, CS , 1.6 L4D2 and GTA Episodes all without lag and usually with the lowest and most consistent ping on the server.

Could be your PC?

My pc is switched off when gaming on my ps3.

Try setting OpenDNS servers manually on the PS3

Wireless connection to the router?

I'm not a gamer so my next question may be daft - is it possible to connect wired and see what happens?

No i'm wired, I have a open nat and also almost 4 bar connection every game, I seem to get less lag after 10pm or 11pm, Which is why i think its network releated.

My Broadband Ping

Ok i had a few games of mw2 after 8pm, Still laggy, Any comments on the graph i've posted.

Edited by deleted (Mon 21-Feb-11 23:16:45)

Ah!

Do you think you could leave the router on when not using it please, just for a couple of days?

It's OK to turn the computer off, but we could do with seeing what happens when there is nothing happening at your end. That will show if there is a background problem.

All we can say for certain from the graph is that router was off between 1:45am midday.

At 7:15pm latency was high for a while, but very likely down to a download and similar period at 10:45pm.

There was some high pings between 8pm and 10pm, but with even just the PS3 online, it does fetch little bits that might affect the latency on the box.

If it was ISP congestion I would expect to see it rising from around 4pm as a steady ramp, rather than bursts which look more like you were downloading something at the time, or otherwise just using the connection.

I'm a bit concerned about these tracerts

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>tracert www.utapug.net

Tracing route to www.utapug.net [81.19.217.216]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 * * * Request timed out.
4 * * * Request timed out.
5 73 ms 215 ms 216 ms linx.killercreation.co.uk [195.66.225.123]
6 26 ms 25 ms 26 ms 217.146.94.6 [217.146.94.6]
7 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms 81.19.217.216

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>tracert bbc.co.uk

Tracing route to bbc.co.uk [212.58.224.138]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 * 29 ms 23 ms 10.1.2.5
4 * * * Request timed out.
5 * 23 ms 22 ms 10.1.2.158
6 22 ms 22 ms 22 ms bbc-gw1-linx.prt0.thdoe.bbc.co.uk [195.66.226.10
3]
7 23 ms 21 ms 21 ms 212.58.238.133
8 19 ms 18 ms 18 ms virtual-vip.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.224.138]

Trace complete.
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I'm a bit concerned about these tracerts

Why?

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

In reply to a post by restarts:

I'm a bit concerned about these tracerts

Why?

Because there timing out.

I wouldn't worry about it. The gateways are set not to prioritise icmp requests


Tracing route to www.utapug.net [81.19.217.216]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 23 ms 99 ms 99 ms bebox.config [192.168.1.254]
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 * * 8 ms 10.1.3.234
4 * * * Request timed out.
5 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms linx.killercreation.co.uk [195.66.225.123]
6 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms 217.146.94.6 [217.146.94.6]
7 18 ms 17 ms 17 ms 81.19.217.216

Trace complete.

As long as the destination - the last one - is ok, there's nothing to be concerned about.

http://beusergroup.co.uk/technotes/index.php?title=T...

So is there anyone who plays mw2 or cod games on ps3 and doesn't suffer any lag on a LLU connection?, And tell me your isp.

Edited by deleted (Sat 05-Mar-11 19:47:58)

Was just reading this thread and since the guys line seems to be perfectly fine, I might have a stab at guessing.

We have forgot to consider outside factors. The factors being...

1. PSN. Pretty bad compared to Live. I am a Street Fighter player and very sensitive to lag when I play (especially when trying the more difficult combos with lag). Me and my friend play on 360 and PS3. None of us can really play to our potential on PSN but Live allows us to play near enough to our peak because we can react to stuff because pings on Live are better.

2. This is probably more of what is causing the lag. Other people. As you probably know most of the UK is on basic overcongested lines from BT, Sky, Virgin with terrible pings. You may have good internet but this means nothing if the other dude you are playing with has 100+ ping (makes sense too since you said it gets better at 10pm which is when the networks on these big companies will ease). An example of this is when I was playing my friend in Glasgow (I am from Edinburgh) and I can ping London at 24 ms. Now bearing in mind that 1 frame is like 15.7 ms, that should theoretically mean that I have less than 2 frames of lag when playing him (taking into account the Live servers) but because he is on BT, we cannot even move properly on the screen.

I then game with my friend from London who is also on Be, since he has a good fastpath line (I think he can ping me with the same values as said before of 24 ms) we can pretty much play as if it was an offline match.

Hope that helps. Stay with Be as they are not the problem.