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Standard User AlistairS
(member) Sun 16-Sep-12 22:20:30
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Moving to a FFTC enabled area - which provider?


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Moving next month to an area that has been enabled for FTTC. I currently use Primus for my landline & ADSL 24 C&W Service.

I have put the new house postcode (G68 0AY) into Talk Talk, Sky & Plusnet Checkers & they all show it as being available at the address. For some reason sky only seem to offer a 40Mbps service whereas the others are quoting 2 products/speeds.

So can I keep my landline with primus & sign up with someone else for FTTC or do I need to take their landline?

I believe the property has a BT line at present but don't know the number. Is it possible to get FTTC installed on my date of entry or will I have to be in residence before I can initiate an order?
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sun 16-Sep-12 22:26:54
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Talktalk and sky like you to take their telephone, helps subsidise price of the FTTC.

Plusnet cannot recall off the top of my head. There are offers that don't have the telephone requirement, but the price increase means that it wipes out the Primus savings

In theory can initiate a simultaneous provide for moving in date, if place is vacant. But usually is a period after then, and Openreach has slow install dates at this point in time

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 16-Sep-12 23:06:36
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You do not have to take Plusnet landline. I'm on BT landline.

If Primus can do a House Move of the landline then that should be fine. Alternatively take over the BT line yourself. Or order a SIM provide from Plusnet - I think they do them.

Sky require you to take their LLU landline, which can restrict your choice if you ever want to change to another ISP without losing broadband for a considerable period. Their 80/20 product exists but you have to ring them to get it. I don't know what the price is.

Is BT Infinity out of the question for you? BT 80/20 and Sky are unlimited usage, PN has a 250GB peak time allowance on the 80/20 product.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk
Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost. Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.0/13.9Mbps @ 600m.

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Standard User AlistairS
(member) Mon 17-Sep-12 07:42:16
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Never even considered BT thought it would be capped. Thanks, do they traffic manage / shape?
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 17-Sep-12 08:37:54
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BT Infinity has a 40/10 product capped at 40GB and a 80/20 product which is unlimited. However, P2P is said to be throttled. You have to have your phone line with BT as part of the package to get Infinity.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 17-Sep-12 08:43:11
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Unfortunately yes. They throttle P2P quite heavily at busy times. The times aren't specified so far as I know - it literally means "when necessary" to maintain decent service for everything else.

The best in that respect seems to be Sky. On PN I can't remember seeing any complaints about slowdowns from throttling or congestion in these forums - there are a normal number of complaints given 600,000+ customers, but they tend to be about administrative or first-line support issues. (There is one complainer who has been very vociferous in the recent past, even after leaving, but I've seen exactly that syndrome here, and at BT, and at Be. I don't monitor the Sky forum here so have no idea what goes on there).

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk
Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost. Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.0/13.9Mbps @ 600m.

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Standard User AlistairS
(member) Mon 17-Sep-12 16:17:28
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Don't use P2P just usenet & its an SSL Connection, so probably wouldn't effect me too much?
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 17-Sep-12 16:23:35
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Don't know, sorry. You need an Infinity user to answer that one.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk
Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost. Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.0/13.9Mbps @ 600m.

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 17-Sep-12 16:34:42
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Usenet is not throttled at all.
Standard User AlistairS
(member) Mon 17-Sep-12 16:36:05
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In reply to a post by BatBoy:
Usenet is not throttled at all.
thanks smile
Standard User AlistairS
(member) Mon 17-Sep-12 21:35:16
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Have signed up for Infinity Option 2. Installation on the day I move in.

Fingers crossed I get the keys early smile

Thanks for your help
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 17-Sep-12 23:10:32
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smile
Let us know how things go.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk
Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost. Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.0/13.9Mbps @ 600m.

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Standard User AlistairS
(member) Tue 18-Sep-12 11:25:18
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
smile
Let us know how things go.
Will do thanks again guys smile
Standard User AlistairS
(member) Thu 01-Nov-12 17:53:20
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So I have been up & running since Friday & its terrific smile

I am getting 56/16. The estimate was 67.5/19.5

Is there any way of getting a bit more out of it?


Being a bit greedy I know smile
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 01-Nov-12 18:21:16
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The estimate referrs to connection speeds, so 56/16 from speedtests (if that is what they are) is not that unreasonable.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User AlistairS
(member) Thu 01-Nov-12 18:33:01
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
The estimate referrs to connection speeds, so 56/16 from speedtests (if that is what they are) is not that unreasonable.
Yes, that was from speedtest. I know its good just wondering if I would see a change in speed up or down over the initial 10 day period
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 01-Nov-12 19:49:52
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Not really, and there nothing in stone to say that the speeds you have after the first couple of days will remain that way forever.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Standard User AlistairS
(member) Thu 01-Nov-12 19:50:58
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Not really, and there nothing in stone to say that the speeds you have after the first couple of days will remain that way forever.
OK thanks will just have to wait & see what happens
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 01-Nov-12 23:32:48
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It's two days on FTTC.

The BT 10 days is even more of a myth on fibre than it was on ADSLx, as it is a feature of the BT Wholesale DLM which doesn't control the line on FTTC. That is done by the Openreach DLM in the cabinet, and the spec is two very sensitive days then ongoing control as required.

Don't bother telling any ISP support that though. Brick walls surround you.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 52.9/14.2Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Standard User epyon
(experienced) Thu 08-Nov-12 00:58:54
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While its true in some cases

i switched from full LLU sky to bt with only an hour or 2 of lost service.

BTInfinity - Aberdeen denburn (110m) from cab

My Broadband Speed Test
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 08-Nov-12 08:54:43
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That's because BT Retail have the simultaneous ROTD and migration sorted. This is often not the case if people want their broadband with an ISP other than BT.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 53.5/15.2Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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