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My list. 
BT infinity 2 £26 inc VAT
Unlimited, sort of.
up to 76Mb download speeds
up to 19Mb upload speeds.
Free connection 
P2P traffic shaping. 
Plusnet Extra fibre £20 inc VAT
250GB download
Super-fast speeds up to 76Mb
Upload speeds up to 19.5Mb
£50 connection ok
P2P traffic shaping
Merula fibre Pro £30inc VAT
up to 40M download speeds
up to 2M upload speeds
100GB Guideline usage
£100 connection
No P2P traffic shaping
Xilo Fibre+ £29.99 inc VAT
50GB download
80Mb/20Mb - 50GB Peak / UM Off-peak-
£100 Connection
No P2P traffic shaping
What is your opinions on the fibre providers I have selected above. Good or bad.
That�s my short list but does not mean they are all suitable.
BT says I can get 50.7 down and 10.9 up. Market 3 exchange and download upto 100GB month. I do use P2P, i player and youtube, streaming.
£100 connection is a ridiculous price when it used to be £50 in ADSL days.
Also would like to know who is better out of PlusNet VS BT infinity for service, speed and P2P download.
Are Merula and goscomb good� isp�s? Thanks
A good router to buy so can use on any fibre service?
Edited by deleted (Wed 07-Nov-12 19:56:59)
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What about EE and Sky?
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Sorry should of said. Sky, EE are out of the question as you have to have your phone line/rental with them.
I have BT line rental saver and and want to keep my phone with BT. Thats why PlusNet would charge me 50 quid for connetion as well.
Edited by deleted (Wed 07-Nov-12 19:54:51)
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Like you i made a list and talked to my closest mates, i was happy to wait for sky to enable us but after a while all the posts about the speed problems started to worry me so at the recommendation of my best mate i went with bt and apart from the upload being nowhere near the estimate (est is 20 but im only getting 12 at last speed check) ive been very happy with it. had it 7 days and already downloaded 200gig (kid in the sweet store  ) the hh3 hasnt missed a beat either but its good to know that i can use my own router if i choose to (again unlike sky)
Yes they slow torrents to <BEEP> but ive spent the last 3 years on 3.5 meg so am very used to just letting it run over night and once the throttleing comes off at night it flys and pings have been good at around 16 to 30ms depending on game/server.
Iplayer works ok, not great but ok, i have had a few stutters when watching hd content but ive been advised it could just be contention (is that the word?) on their servers and not bt.
Plusnet i looked at but i didnt like the idea of a limit, the others i never looked at as my three where bt, sky and plusnet
Anyways thats my 2p's worth.
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Edited by omnius (Wed 07-Nov-12 20:02:43)
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BT says .... Market 3 exchange and download upto 100GB month. Where does that 100GB pm come from? It's garbage. BT require you to have your phone line rental and a call package with them. The helpline normally takes you to India, though occasionally you get someone in the UK. Reports of the usefulness of the Indian centre are mixed, tending to poor.
Plusnet is 250GB 8am to midnight, unlimited midnight to 8am. If you move your phone to them as well then the £50 connection charge is waived.
Plusnet P2P throttling is 8pm-10pm only, and the throttling is to 2Mbps. Streaming is not throttled. The basic helpline is good but limited, as you'd expect. More complex problems are well handled on the PN Community forum and here, with very active very good reps around.
Are those the current Merula product and price details off their website, or from something like the Orly/yarwell spreadsheet? I find it hard to believe there isn't an 80/20 product.
Xilo/uno - good reputation, small ISP with hands-on by the boss who visits here a lot.
Goscomb - IIRC quite a few people like them. We don't hear much.
I'd go for Plusnet if I were you. If you decide you want to get out then it is only £6 per outstanding month, not the full £20, but I doubt if you would wish to. They supply a Netgear TG582N router which is fine except the wireless isn't too brilliant and it only has three LAN ports. I continue using my Buffalo WHR-G300NV2 that I got for use on IDNet FTTC, as it's wireless is far better, but don't get the gig-LAN version. If you want that, look for something else.
Edit - changed Buffalo link to a cheaper offer.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 53.5/15.2Mbps @ 600m. - BQM
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Edited by RobertoS (Wed 07-Nov-12 22:51:49)
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Thanks. How slow is it with BT for torrents? as I seem to find conflicting advice. Is it as bad as this? http://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Infinity/bittorent-tho...
Just seen this video and don't give you confidence. That is bad and not even a torrent. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8MNAlwgqr4
Edited by deleted (Wed 07-Nov-12 20:15:37)
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Roberto that may of been the way I put it. The 100GB is my download max, not BT's Lol.
Yes merula prices are current, see here http://www.merula.net/broadband/
http://www.merula.net/broadband/fibre.php
How much are the routers on plusnet to buy outright? Am I correct in thinking that, you can't use plusnet routers on another service?
Edited by deleted (Wed 07-Nov-12 20:22:30)
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Thanks. How slow is it with BT for torrents? as I seem to find conflicting advice. Is it as bad as this? http://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Infinity/bittorent-tho...
Just seen this video and don't give you confidence. That is bad and not even a torrent. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8MNAlwgqr4
My speed was reported by vuze as 3.4mb yesterday while downloading 6 torrents however it has been lower, right now im downloading at 85kB/s (one torrent), upload seems capped at 15kB/s. during the night the log shows that the downloads go much faster but the upload didnt change
as for the video isnt that adsl not vdsl?
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The PN router is free, (£4.99 postage), so long as you stay 12 months. (Not the 18-month FTTC term). I think the price if you leave within the 12 months is £40, but you can probably check that as quickly as I can.
I beliieve it is locked down, but can be flashed with generic fw.
I seriously recommend the Buffalo. Silly price and nothing wrong with it. The price showing at the moment is higher than usual. Mine was £26.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 53.5/15.2Mbps @ 600m. - BQM
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Torrents usually full speed
till about 8pm-11pm where i get around 1-2Mbps which tbh isnt that much of a big deal as i'm working then.
BTInfinity - Aberdeen denburn (110m) from cab
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Right, let me tell you where I am with this. I wouldn't consider any provider who didn't have their own backhaul or an unlimited product.
I would only choose BT Infinity, Sky or TalkTalk. And I'm currently with BT Infinity. They suit me and I don't have any problems - especially since I hacked my modem and switched off their creepy stuff.
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Not sure but I thought BT traffic shaping is the same on fibre as on adsl.
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That is correct roberto but I wanted to know prices of the routers to pay up front.
Just called plusnet and told it's £20 for wired and £40 for wireless. Think I would rather have wired but seems it only comes with one port. Can anybody tell me how many ports the wired router has?
I did ask him about how low torrents would go with traffic shaping but no real answer to that.
Edited by deleted (Wed 07-Nov-12 21:06:41)
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BT Retail uses the BT Wholesale backhaul.
So does every other BT Wholesale-based ISP. So that's all except Sky, TT, and TalkTalk Business ISPs.
Far more important anyway is the budgeted capacity per customer at the BT Wholesale nodes. I.e. how much MSIL capacity per customer they rent from BT Wholesale, and exactly how that is allocated around the twenty of those. (Thus explaining why some Infinity customers have no slowdowns and others do).
I hold that your post is misguided.
As for "unlimited". I find it hard to believe you have no idea how much you use in a heavy month. I wager it is quite reasonable and that unlimited is unnecessary to you. No doubt you will provide a rough estimate, and I shall be happy to withdraw the comment if it is a huge number. However it will still be irrelevant to all except a tiny minority.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 53.5/15.2Mbps @ 600m. - BQM
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The router is free on bt just £6 for p+p
BTInfinity - Aberdeen denburn (110m) from cab
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On the contrary, I'm undertaking a project to archive all the music available online. I have a great need for unlimited bandwidth and also disk space. I've solved the bandwidth problem but I need more SATA hard disks so I will be addressing a post here http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/hardware/t/4176659-...
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Oooopss!!! Correction.
The previous router on 40/2 was a Netgear. They have now relegated that to "older routers" with the introduction of 40/10 and 80/20. It is a Technicolor TG582N with three 100Mbps LAN ports. The fourth port is firmware-enabled as the WAN port to connect to the modem. I have both!
The Buffalo has a separate WAN port and four LAN, as did the earlier Netgear.
Torrents = P2P = 2Mbps throttle 8pm-10pm as I said. I have seen no complaints about slowdowns below that, or huge ones at any other times.
Why would you want to buy the router? It makes no sense so to do. If you decide to leave with 12 months you pay for it then.
Edit - typo of "Why".
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 53.5/15.2Mbps @ 600m. - BQM
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Edited by RobertoS (Wed 07-Nov-12 21:27:02)
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Is it any good? Do you know if you can use your own router? One like roberto suggested.
Edited by deleted (Wed 07-Nov-12 21:29:33)
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I abandoned the Homehub as it's locked down tight. You can't change the DNS it uses for example. You are free to use your own router and even modem.
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Thanks. Is it worth buying one from ebay or maybe that buffalo router? I just thought it would be better to pay upfront for the router, incase anything happens and so it's out the way.
Edited by deleted (Wed 07-Nov-12 21:30:14)
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Well I may buy my own router then but will BT help you if you don't use the hub? Plusnet says they won't support you if your not using their router or something.
This is really hard to choose. BT will save me lot of money but just the traffic management on p2p.
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Whatever you do, don't forget Quidco and TopCashBack. (Clear cookies before doing the order run).
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 53.5/15.2Mbps @ 600m. - BQM
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The usual advice to to follow the money, choose BT if it saves you. You can always get round the throttling using encryption or VPN, or just be patient. Plug the BT router (or modem) in before calling support - it's always good to have an alternative device to rule out problems anyway.
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This one costs less, it's the same model spec isn't it?
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Thanks again. Think I can get about 25 quid from TopCashBack. Quido is a bit less clear.
Anyway if anybody has more views on plusnet, BT or the others, please post your experiences. About torrents more so. I'm not changing yet and think openreach is busy at the moment, so may not get installed until new year.
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The other way I'm looking at it is, it's free connection but after my contract, I could migrate to a better fibre service and it won't cost me to move.
Fibre to fibre is free but ADSL/LLU to fibre is not.
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Yes, I'm thinking that way too. I'm considering Sky in 6 months time but FTTP is on the horizon.
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Fibre to fibre migrations are not free. They are chargeable.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 53.5/15.2Mbps @ 600m. - BQM
"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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This one costs less, it's the same model spec isn't it? Yes. I thought the one I found looked expensive! Now edited my link.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 53.5/15.2Mbps @ 600m. - BQM
"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Edited by RobertoS (Wed 07-Nov-12 22:52:17)
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The other way I'm looking at it is, it's free connection but after my contract, I could migrate to a better fibre service and it won't cost me to move. Have yu costed it over the full 18 months? I found peanuts difference when I did that, but the offers were different at the time.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 53.5/15.2Mbps @ 600m. - BQM
"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Its fine enough ive been thinking about using my own router also as the wireless for me anyways hits 32Mbps max in my home
But via cable the router is flawless so far the Gigabyte ethernet is a nice touch even though its only one and the other 3 are 100mbps
BTInfinity - Aberdeen denburn (110m) from cab
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Is this the homehub that's maxxing out at 32Mbps? This seems pretty low. Even Skys cheap router which has a max of 144Mbps hits 74 Mbps quite easily.
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The throughput is 32mbps
connection rate is 144
i had skys fibre router before
it could barely get past 19mbps throughput.
BTInfinity - Aberdeen denburn (110m) from cab
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I have to argue that your wireless card is in some way restricting you or the wireless channel being used is problematic.
I have had Sky's Sagem router & now their new Sky hub. Both easily deliver the 80Mbps service with 70+ speeds. I do find that my HP laptop maxes out around 40Mbps but the wifi card built into that isn't great. My macbook pro pulls the full speeds guaranteed.
Right now I have the router under the kitchen counter hidden away & can't be turned off by accident... I then have 4 walls between me and the router. 1 of those walls has metal sheeting inside which is a killer for wifi... I'm also upstairs. I have 1 or 2 bars of Wifi, in a spot where my mobile isn't even picking up the Wifi and I am still pulling 22Mbps on here.
With 1 / 2 walls between me and the router I get full speeds no issue. (70Mbps +)
In the same room as the router & the room next to and directly above I see no difference between wifi and wired.
Definitely isn't the router that's the issue.
EDIT: In a world where most people use the WiFI over cabled ISPs wouldn't supply equipment that's not even capable of 1/2 the speed of the service. It does require a wifi card capable of 150Mbps on single stream to achieve the 144 though.
Edited by ukhardy07 (Thu 08-Nov-12 01:56:18)
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My wireless card is not a fault i think its due to me having congested wireless
every channel is pretty much full of networks as i live in the centre of my city.
BTInfinity - Aberdeen denburn (110m) from cab
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They are free for most. Look at the merula link http://www.merula.net/broadband/fibre.php
The bit in bold Thats what I am on about.
Other charges
Migrations (from existing dibre connections) FREEInstall £80.00
Cease Fee £28
Fibre contracts carry a minimum 12 month contract.
Note all prices are quoted ex VAT.
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Not to much in it but I thought I would do a total price comparison. The other two cost to much. Done it for 12 and 18 months, even though BT and plusnet are 18 months.
All prices inc VAT. BT and plusnet are 18 month contract. Others are 12. You can compair what 12 or 18 month would cost on all. Setup fee is included in total price
Prices correct as of 8/11/12.
PlusNet Extra Fibre excluding line rental £20 a month
Contract 18 Month 12 Month
Setup fee £50 £50
12 or 18 £360 £240
Tot £410 £290
BT infinity 2 Excluding line rental £26 Month
Contract 18 Month 12 Month
Setup fee Free Free
12 or 18 £468 £312
Tot £468 £312
Merula fibre pro £30 Month
Contract 18 Month 12 Month
Setup fee £100 £100
12 or 18 £540 £360
Tot £640 £460
Xilo Fibre+ 50GB £29.99 Month
Contract 18 Month 12 Month
Setup fee £100 £100
12 or 18 £539.82 £359.88
Tot £639.32 £459.88
Edited by deleted (Thu 08-Nov-12 19:11:50)
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Roberto I called BT today and this is what I was told. They put me through to BT total broadband at first but they did not know, so went through to infinity tec support.
I was told peak times are 6pm-9pm.
I asked about download speed on torrents and are about 200kb's so I am told.
And even though BT infinity 2 says unlimited, it has a FUP of 80GB a month. You get slowed down if you go over that.
How true any of this is, is anyone's guess. BT are not known for giving straight answers
Edited by deleted (Thu 08-Nov-12 20:13:28)
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Sky Fibre.
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BT infinity does not have a fup of 80GB it did have a fup around 2 years ago of 300GB but it got taken away.
as of typing i've used around 370GB so far this month.
few posts down
http://community.bt.com/t5/BB-Speed-Connection-Issue...
bt staff confirm it.
BTInfinity - Aberdeen denburn (110m) from cab
Edited by epyon (Thu 08-Nov-12 20:06:14)
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As I said in my other post, sky is no good. Need to have line rental with them. Stopping with BT for phone.
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Thanks. I thought that was low anyway.
BT saying the wrong things again.
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Don't know why you'd stick with BT. Moved over to sky phone and sky fiber, zero problems, consistently good speeds whenever I run speed tester, £20 a month (who needs 80mb, that'll be a nice little increase in a year or two's time )
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Yes, the 80GB is utter garbage, which casts doubt on what else you were told.
Preceding the 300GB which was removed a long time ago, it was 100GB. 80GB just doesn't figure.
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Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 53.5/15.2Mbps @ 600m. - BQM
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From what ive gathered hes paid a years line rental in advanced already.
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But that wont help you much as you don't already have fibre (I think they just have a typo as dibre is not a technology I have heard of
so for you it is a new connection and their £80 is + VAT (£96.00 inc VAT)
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But that wont help you much as you don't already have fibre (I think they just have a typo as dibre is not a technology I have heard of
so for you it is a new connection and their £80 is + VAT (£96.00 inc VAT) It's a Merula-specific technology  . I just followed his link.
I'm also a bit worried by his "most", based on a single example. It seems unlikely, unless OR have now dropped their migration charge to a lower figure than an initial install. Maybe you can tell us whether they have or not .
The sub-discussion was about migrating to somewhere other than a "free" installer after his first contract expires.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 53.5/15.2Mbps @ 600m. - BQM
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Edited by RobertoS (Fri 09-Nov-12 09:11:13)
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The price charged for migrations of FTTC to FTTC is a little lower but not by much, FTTC new installs and migrations from xDSL are still the same figure.
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Thanks.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 53.5/15.2Mbps @ 600m. - BQM
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I've had BT Infinity 2 for a couple of weeks now and so far I'm very impressed. Signup estimate was 51Mb down and 13Mb up but TBB speed tester reports this (TBB is the only tester that reports such a slow upload, every other tester reports 14Mb)
I don't do p2p so the throttling of that bothers me not one bit. I didn't want Sky line rental, and Sky 80Mb is more expensive than BT. Throw in the £50 from topcashback and a £50 Sainsbury's gift card, free connection and no FUP that I'll ever get near and it is a good deal all round. I was nervous about going with BT as their ADSL has a terrible reputation, but good feedback on here and elsewhere about Infinity 2 helped me take the plunge. I know it is still early days but so far so good.
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Correct. I also use a override provider and you can't use that on sky. Not sure if plusnet lets you either.
By the time you have messed about moving your phone, it's no cheaper anyway and in most cases, cost more.
Better the devil you know.
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Viva not all of them will charge but yes that's what you would have to pay if needed.
Anyway I emailed Merula and asked them about this. Is a small charge but it's better than a ridiculous £100 migration fee.
Quote from email. Removed name as not sure I can post it.
There is normally a £15 charge for these migrates as long as no BT engineer visit is needed for the migration. We can waive this if there is a new 12 month contract with the move.
BTW viva I did look at your fibre but ruled you out, as your fibre prices cost to much. Free Fibre connection may of helped.
Vivaciti FTTC Family 45GB @ £34.99
Xilo Fibre+ 50GB @ 29.99
Edited by deleted (Fri 09-Nov-12 16:04:59)
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See my reply to VIVA Roberto.
I think I prefer the wired router you linked to better than the BT hub. That is one point to plusnet. Don't know if the two routers you posted before would work on BT?
Edited by deleted (Fri 09-Nov-12 16:09:15)
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Thanks good to know your happy with BT fibre. Shame you don't torrent as that is most important to me. 13 meg up is still excellent thought.
If Anyone on BT or plusnet could do a simple legal torrent test for me, I would be grateful.
Please see links and post your results. Only need a few people to test it. Will give a better idea on who's P2P throttle is the worst.
Plusnet http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/plusnet/f/4177867-p...
BT http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/bt/f/4177873-p2p-sp...
Edited by deleted (Fri 09-Nov-12 16:19:43)
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With 800,000 odd Infinity users the chances of one person getting a different performance on the throttling platforms is pretty high.
In short, the management can be different for two users who are doing identical activity, as not all traffic goes through the same point for management.
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Ah ok, fair play
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If you mean the Buffalo, as far as I know there would be no problem with any ISP's FTTC except for probably Sky. They have an unusual logging in system. Several people have ditched the Home Hub 3.
I only posted about one that I remember - the Buffalo? Though I did change the link to the same thing at a lower price.
It's a nice warm feeling to have a spare router anyway .
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 53.5/15.2Mbps @ 600m. - BQM
"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Not sure if this is what your saying but are you saying that BT say, would traffic shape each individual connection?
That would not make sense and be more of a inefficient way of doing things.
Edited by deleted (Fri 09-Nov-12 19:20:10)
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Yes the Buffalo was one of them and the Technicolor TG582N you mentioned. I may get that off ebay or something. Just not a plusnet one if I go with BT.
Hope I can turn wirless off on both routers. Thanks roberto.
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No problemo and now you know.
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In two ways, yes.
The main one will be the WBC Node, (there are twenty), that your connection goes through to get to them. The capacity BT Retail rent at each is fixed, (in the short term but can obviously be enhanced), and unless things have changed your connection always goes through the same one except possibly if it goes faulty.
Given that, the load on the twenty nodes can be very different at all times of day. For example, Entanet have links at all twenty as well, and the load on the Entanet links is shown here. (I think it updates every 5 or 10 minutes). That on the BT Retail ones will be different.
Given that a node may be close to capacity at a heavy time, but a different one not so badly affected at that time, and assuming traffic is managed according to the node a user is on, some users could experience severe throttling while most are not affected.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 53.5/15.2Mbps @ 600m. - BQM
"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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I'm in a similar situation. I pickup 14 wireless networks in range when I scan on my Sony Laptop. My macbook gets about 9.
I was getting full 70Mbps + on wireless. Just last night onwards it's crashed to 35Mbps at best. This is on all channels and all devices. I tried another router but it's not having it.
Looks like in busy areas 2.4ghz is just too packed. I would switch to 5Ghz but I don't want to spend £80 + on a good router.
Ahhh well.
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I would switch to 5Ghz but I don't want to spend £80 + on a good router. Have you checked your devices support 5GHz anyway?
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 53.5/15.2Mbps @ 600m. - BQM
"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Allergy information: This post was manufactured in an environment where nuts are present. It may include traces of understatement, litotes and humour.
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The current router i switched to is doing a bit better im getting about 28-30Mbps i hate granite buildings :/
Thankfully my main pc is right beside the phone socket so i can enjoy cat6 goodness.
BTInfinity - NSDEN using TP-Link W8960n
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