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Standard User ARD
(knowledge is power) Wed 18-Dec-13 11:31:33
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New provider- Fibre & Broadband only?


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I�m looking for a new ISP. I don�t care whether it�s BT Wholesale, LLU or Virgin Media as long as the following criteria are met:

1. Broadband only option (essential)
2. Fibre to the premises or cabinet (only VM offer FTTP in my area. FTTC comes in a fews weeks.)

UK support line would be a bonus

Thanks for any advice
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 18-Dec-13 12:26:35
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Re: New provider- Fibre & Broadband only?


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I'd bet a fiver that it is not FTTP from Virgin Media, but FTTN with a coax cable into the home, i.e. still metal.

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Standard User ARD
(knowledge is power) Wed 18-Dec-13 12:37:56
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I'd bet more that a fiver that your're right laugh


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Standard User ian72
(knowledge is power) Wed 18-Dec-13 14:51:50
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Re: New provider- Fibre & Broadband only?


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Why do you need broadband only? If you are comparing why not just compare the total cost for the broadband (including any line rental) between the different suppliers?

Whether they happen to deliver a voice line or not is irrelevant if you don't need it and they end up being cheapest.

IE - buying VM on "wires only" may work out more expensive than buying Sky with voice line rental (NB this is just an example and may in now way represent the "real" scenario and is used just to illustrate the point).
Standard User ARD
(knowledge is power) Wed 18-Dec-13 15:04:05
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I share a home. The other resident does not want to change from the current phone line provider. I'm looking for fibre broadband and fibre broadband only. I am not interested in a special Xmas bundle deal.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 18-Dec-13 15:16:07
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That's not quite the same statement smile. Your opening post said no phone option, not no bundle.

You don't get a choice of FTTP or FTTC. FTTP is a bit more complex, so what does this checker say that phone number will have available? (Do not use the postcode checker).

If it's FTTC then plenty of ISPs offer that without a bundle. Assuming you want unlimited downloads 24/7, not just overnight, your only real option is PlusNet.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 59.4/14.4Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Edited by RobertoS (Wed 18-Dec-13 15:17:40)

Standard User ARD
(knowledge is power) Wed 18-Dec-13 16:10:24
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I know which LLU providers are available. Virgin Media FTTN is avalailble. I have my choice of BT Wholesale and FTTC will soon be available very soon. When I looked at the PlusNet site last week and again today there's no mention of a Broadband only option...only deals with lines. I might give them a ring.
Standard User ian72
(knowledge is power) Wed 18-Dec-13 16:11:52
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Sorry, misunderstood your question - I thought you were looking for wires only.

So, Plusnet is an option. I believe Zen and Andrews and Arnolds also do. Don't have much experience of others I'm afraid.
Standard User ian72
(knowledge is power) Wed 18-Dec-13 16:12:53
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http://www.plus.net/home-broadband/broadband-only/
Standard User fig
(experienced) Wed 18-Dec-13 16:25:13
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http://www.plus.net/home-broadband/broadband-only/

plusnet 4/11/2003 -> 4/3/2009 512Kb-2Mb
O2 Standard LLU 4/3/2009 -> 23/6/2009 ~3Mb O2 Access 13/7/2009 -> 22/6/2010 ~8Mb
plusnet 22/6/2010 -> ?? ~8MB
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 18-Dec-13 16:41:28
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And Zen do an unlimited FTTC there is a surcharge if you don't take their telephone line product, but if static IP, custom reverse DNS are what you after then its an option.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 18-Dec-13 16:59:51
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In reply to a post by ARD:
I know which LLU providers are available.
Without taking over the line?
Virgin Media FTTN is avalailble.
Your fellow-resident is happy about the trenching for the co-ax? The people in the area are generally happy with it?

PlusNet "deals" are only with line rental, but there is a broadband-only option as others have shown.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 59.4/14.4Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Standard User trolleybus
(member) Wed 18-Dec-13 17:46:39
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
And Zen do an unlimited FTTC there is a surcharge if you don't take their telephone line product, but if static IP, custom reverse DNS are what you after then its an option.


"custom reverse DNS"; please explain this in more detail.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 18-Dec-13 21:58:22
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Reverse DNS is a lookup from IP address to a name. If you have static IP (all Zen IP addresses are static), most ISPs allow you to set the name returned from a reverse DNS lookup on your IP address(es).

Zen allow custom reverse DNS, though the forward DNS must return the IP address in question otherwise the Zen portal will reject the reverse DNS mapping.


In other words, if I had a Zen IP address of 10.11.12.13 and davidw.example.org.uk looked up to 10.11.12.13, I could set the reverse DNS of 10.11.12.13 to davidw.example.org.uk


Zen charge £5.40 per month (including VAT) for an FTTC package without Zen phone service, making Unlimited Fibre 2 £35.40 per month.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 18-Dec-13 22:02:39
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In reply to a post by David_W:
Zen charge £5.40 extra(?) per month (including VAT) for an FTTC package without Zen phone service, making Unlimited Fibre 2 £35.40 per month.
smile

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 59.4/14.4Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 18-Dec-13 22:14:45
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
In reply to a post by David_W:
Zen charge £5.40 extra(?) per month (including VAT) for an FTTC package without Zen phone service, making Unlimited Fibre 2 £35.40 per month.
smile
Indeed so (albeit implicit in my post) - as we both stated, you have to add the headline charge for the FTTC package (which is the price you pay as part of an FTTC and phone bundle) on top.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 18-Dec-13 22:21:15
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Just it made me blink and stop, which isn't good smile. Then I realised I recognised the £5.40. Otherwise it would have been hard to work out what I agree was implicit.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 59.4/14.4Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Standard User ARD
(knowledge is power) Thu 19-Dec-13 11:30:12
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The road and several properties have VM fibre and my fellow resident is happy to leave Broadband to me....so long as the proesent phone provider is retained.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 19-Dec-13 14:15:36
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I'd speak to a few neighbours about the VM if you haven't done so. In some areas it seems to be brilliant for everyone. Other areas poor for all, and I mean for years. I did ask if those near you were happy with VM.

I know several people (pre-FTTC existing) stick with it round here but vow they wouldn't have it at their new place, and a few who have switched to FTTC since that became available. (50Mbps or so connections on FTTC).

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 59.4/14.4Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Allergy information: This post was manufactured in an environment where nuts are present. It may include traces of understatement, litotes and humour.
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