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Standard User ady702
(newbie) Sat 15-Aug-15 18:33:32
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Fibre only broadband?


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Hi all,

does anyone do fibre only package under £30 a month with unlimited usage?

I'm with Vivaciti BB at the moment but need a speed boast but not at £38+!

Any advice would be spot on cheers

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sat 15-Aug-15 18:43:10
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Up to 40/2, 40/10 or 80/20 connection speed?

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Standard User ady702
(newbie) Sat 15-Aug-15 18:45:18
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my line supports upto 60, so 40/2 or 40/10


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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sat 15-Aug-15 18:57:12
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There's Plusnet 40/2 but I just left them. There are ongoing problems affecting some customers and there doesn't seem to be any resolution in sight for them. The majority seem to be OK. Mine was OK but not perfect.

Then they have recently really messed up access to Customer Service, which is why I left. Partly in case I needed it in the future, and partly out of disgust.

I don't know of any others below £36 once the line is included.

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Standard User ady702
(newbie) Sat 15-Aug-15 19:02:26
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Yep I was reading up about them earlier, I was infact going to join them back in January with all the cashback offers but wasn't 100% now they seem to be having more issues!
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sat 15-Aug-15 19:10:59
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LOL
In January it was 40/10 at the same price, and the support was nearly as good as it was when I joined.

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Standard User ady702
(newbie) Sat 15-Aug-15 19:21:19
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I think it was £130 cashback, but nothing on BB Fibre. Also the 18 month contract is off putting with the issues. I'm only one month contract with Vivaciti.
Hmm decisions.
Standard User tommy45
(knowledge is power) Sat 15-Aug-15 21:55:30
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Zen FTTC 40/10 Unlimited @ £32.40 pm, 12mth min term or there's uno bb, but not totally unlimited
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sat 15-Aug-15 21:56:33
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See here.

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sat 15-Aug-15 21:58:43
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The OP is talking about the total of line and broadband. So he has to add his to the Zen broadband.

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Standard User tommy45
(knowledge is power) Sat 15-Aug-15 22:53:09
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
The OP is talking about the total of line and broadband. So he has to add his to the Zen broadband.
does anyone do fibre only package under £30 a month with unlimited usage? Where in that sentence does it mention line rental ???????? correct it doesn't

Vivaciti FTTC prices you will see nearly £38 without [censored] line rental, and the op is very unlikely to get such a deal for both, unless they don't care about quality ect , tt business maybe an option ,without going into the realms of MPF with Stalk talk consumer , and there are reported peak time issues their in some locations that's what you get with the pile em high sell it cheap merchants plusnet is one of those

Edited by tommy45 (Sat 15-Aug-15 23:03:08)

Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sat 15-Aug-15 23:13:55
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Maybe the OP's next post will clarify. I read the vivaciti package as including line rental at £37.20 and that they regarded that as too much.

I took that in preference to the perfectly reasonable interpretation you have made of the post.

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Standard User tommy45
(knowledge is power) Sun 16-Aug-15 00:23:33
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
Maybe the OP's next post will clarify. I read the vivaciti package as including line rental at £37.20 and that they regarded that as too much.

I took that in preference to the perfectly reasonable interpretation you have made of the post.
no chance of vivaciti offfering line rental as well for sub £40, i doubt their price for 40/10 unlimited will be much cheaper
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sun 16-Aug-15 00:35:22
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OK, after much delving, it does seem that vivaciti line rental is extra, but it is well hidden and I believe the website contravenes ASA/Ofcom requirements.

The indispensable man or woman passes from the scene, and what happens next is more or less the same thing as was happening before.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 57584/13846kbps @ 600m. - BQM
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sun 16-Aug-15 00:40:32
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Right - I was thinking your £38 that was too much included line rental.

Who is your line with? Vivaciti or other. If other, how much per month?

What exchange are you on, and do you need anytime calls?

How does £38 including line rental for 40/10 unlimited grab you? On a monthly contract!

The indispensable man or woman passes from the scene, and what happens next is more or less the same thing as was happening before.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 57584/13846kbps @ 600m. - BQM

Edited by RobertoS (Sun 16-Aug-15 00:46:25)

Standard User ady702
(newbie) Sun 16-Aug-15 13:12:40
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Yes only looking for Fibre itself no line rental as the old man is only paying about £12 a month with free calls so doesn't want to change.

Vivaciti is 37.20 for fibre a month no mention of phone required aswell.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 16-Aug-15 13:21:12
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Do you realise the connection only works over a phone line?
Standard User ady702
(newbie) Sun 16-Aug-15 13:31:30
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Yes, will still have the phone line
Plusnet have Unlimited Fibre Broadband (18months no phone line) although it says you need line rental, but not sure if its with them or not for Fibre?!

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BT will offer you a fibre-only package cheaper than that, say around £28 for 80/20. But you'll have to ring them up to request it on 0800 587 7216 and ask for their Solus broadband.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sun 16-Aug-15 14:24:55
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If you click the "+ line rental" link on the PN page I linked to earlier (which I hope is hitting the broadband only tab), where it says you need line rental it tells you that if you take theirs the broadband is £2.50pm cheaper smile. Just the same as the broadband and phone tab.

The indispensable man or woman passes from the scene, and what happens next is more or less the same thing as was happening before.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 57584/13846kbps @ 600m. - BQM

Edited by RobertoS (Sun 16-Aug-15 14:29:02)

Standard User tommy45
(knowledge is power) Sun 16-Aug-15 14:49:03
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But then the op is tied into a unreasonably long min term of 18mths ,and yes 18mths IMO is unreasonable for FTTC when ISP's are only held to 12mths max by BT openreach for new FTTC customers
And should the op end up with peak time performance issues , you know the ones that are still ongoing that plusnet have kept very shtum about , I seriously could not recommend plusnet to anyone

Also Plusnet's FTTC only is 40/2 and not the 40/10 product So if upload speed is important to the OP then this is pants even for £17.49 per month without line rental as for their 80/20 product @£22.49 , i used to pay £19.99 for and i didn't think it was worth paying that at times (peak time congestion)

As for vivaciti 's web site, I personally don't see an issue, The product headers describe each product none mention line rental , i doubt they should need to do. As you couldn't order a broadband product without already having an active line, why any supplier should need to specify that line rental isn't included i don't know,

Just because the big ISP's are after people switching their line rental to them, so they can sell the bb at a loss , doesn't mean that the smaller ISP's should follow suit,

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sun 16-Aug-15 15:02:09
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Try reading my first few posts in this thread frown. You are simply duplicating them.

Plus, it is a requirement to make it clear in the main pages that a line is required and is not included in the price. Not hidden away in places like T & Cs or small print. That's why nearly all ISPs now make it obvious.

The fact that the ASA or Ofcom, whichever's rule that is, doesn't bother with tiny ISPs until they are reported doesn't mean the rule doesn't apply to them.

The indispensable man or woman passes from the scene, and what happens next is more or less the same thing as was happening before.
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Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 57584/13846kbps @ 600m. - BQM
Standard User tommy45
(knowledge is power) Sun 16-Aug-15 15:23:37
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BTW the deal with Pulse8 for FTTC and line rental for£38.00 per month if this would mean MPF then i feel the op should be forewarned of the possible issues that can arise like the loss of telephone number ect

Well if i visit a ISP web site and start browsing their broadband products,any prices i see i would assume to be for broadband, unless they stipulate differently, also i do not need some notice saying that the advertised bb products need an active working telephone line
That's stating the obvious

Edited by tommy45 (Sun 16-Aug-15 15:29:00)

Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sun 16-Aug-15 16:07:27
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Well if i visit a ISP web site and start browsing their broadband products,any prices i see i would assume to be for broadband, unless they stipulate differently, also i do not need some notice saying that the advertised bb products need an active working telephone line
That's stating the obvious
Yes, but not everybody is as clever as you.

The indispensable man or woman passes from the scene, and what happens next is more or less the same thing as was happening before.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 57970/13958kbps @ 600m. - BQM
Standard User tommy45
(knowledge is power) Sun 16-Aug-15 16:17:07
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
In reply to a post by tommy45:
Well if i visit a ISP web site and start browsing their broadband products,any prices i see i would assume to be for broadband, unless they stipulate differently, also i do not need some notice saying that the advertised bb products need an active working telephone line
That's stating the obvious
Yes, but not everybody is as clever as you.
It's not about being clever is it, anyone with an ounce of common sense should be able to see what is included for the price shown, it ain't rocket science

If anything the biggest players are responsible to causing any confusion by selling bundled deals in the first place,
Standard User vivaciti
(knowledge is power) Mon 17-Aug-15 10:35:11
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Hi,
I don't see how as line rental is not compulsory for any customer unlike a lot of other providers. Although our line rental is one of the cheapest at £11.40 per month.

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Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 17-Aug-15 11:50:51
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Presumably it is compulsory that they have line rental with someone?
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 17-Aug-15 12:11:02
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Ooops. A good point.

I hadn't thought of it that way.

Sorry blush.

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Standard User vivaciti
(knowledge is power) Mon 17-Aug-15 12:13:12
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And as such we do not have to list line rental, you would only need to list the line rental (and not in the small print) if they HAVE to take line rental with you if you have the broadband.
We do not require them to move their line rental to us.

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Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 17-Aug-15 13:09:32
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That was what I assumed, just wanted to be clear.
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(knowledge is power) Mon 17-Aug-15 14:09:00
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No problem

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