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Standard User OneWord
(newbie) Mon 16-Jul-07 18:55:24
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What are my chances?


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I have recently accepted a job in Talgarth south wales (see link for location)
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=talgarth&sll=54.162434,-3.647461&sspn=9.06536,20.126953&ie=UTF8&z=12&iwloc=addr&om=1

I am in the process of finding a place to rent and won't be living more than 30 miles from this area. I have been looking on various sites and the outlook looks bleak for me being able to get any kind of high speed internet. Searching for the exchanges in Brecon, Abergavenny, Merthyr Tydil and Hereford reveal that the exchanges are ADSL enabled, but there is no ADSL ISP currently offering service in these areas surrounding Talgarth.

I was hoping there might be someone who lives/lived in this area of Wales and could perhaps enlighten me about the high speed broadband capabilities in this area of Wales, what chances do I have?
Standard User RobertoS
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 16-Jul-07 19:02:37
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there is no ADSL ISP currently offering service in these areas surrounding Talgarth


How have you established that? I could be missing something, but if the exchange is BT ADSL enabled I thought all except the LLU (own equipment in the BT exchange ones) could offer ADSL on a BT phone line.

In which case there are plenty and the choice comes down to the type of usage you will have and what your service priorities are.

Bob - Newnet Lite, ex Prodigynet. Purple Cloud for domain reg and email.
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(deleted) Mon 16-Jul-07 19:05:10
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http://www.samknows.com/broadband/detail.php?exch=3234
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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 16-Jul-07 19:15:40
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Contact IDNet. You should be able to get any ISP, that does not have LLU, to give you a connection to adsl.

Try phoning IDNet it is a free number and you will talk to some really pleasant people.

www.idnet.co.uk

IDNet Studio, The Spirella Building, Letchworth, Herts SG6 4ET. UK
T: 08000 267 237 | E: [email protected]
Standard User OneWord
(newbie) Mon 16-Jul-07 20:21:01
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Thanks for the quick replies. Sorry if I am asking simple questions, I just got confused as I have been with a Cable Operator since getting broadband and although I understand how ADSL works I do not understand about the differences in technologies used and what options there are.

I was putting in local exchange names into this site http://www.samknows.com/broadband/search.php and it was coming up that areas were ADSL or ADSL MAX enabled (whats difference does MAX make? - better connection?) but the site said that no one like Talk Talk, Tiscali, Bull Dog, Be, etc. were available on those exchanges.

So as long as I choose to live in an area that is ADSL enabled I should be able to get a connection via ADSL with a decent provider like IDNet - can any other Welsch residents recommend their ISP's? I would like to stay away from the big bad ISP's like Tiscali and Talk Talk and hope I can get a more reliable ISP. Whatever happens I face a large step down in speed as I am used to speeds of 10mbit and soon to be 20mbit - but that's life and I have a career to start!
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(deleted) Mon 16-Jul-07 20:46:55
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IDNET,ZEN.
Standard User RobertoS
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 16-Jul-07 22:39:30
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Hi again

You were right to go to samknows, but occasionally even sam can be out of date. I would be very surprised if an ADSL-enabled exchange did not also have ADSL Max. Basically all ADSL Max is is a fully rate-adaptive system that BT introduced later, and allows "up to 8Mb" connections on lines that previously may only have been able to have 1M or less. (Before Max, the best there was was 2Mb). For example I had 1Mb, could not have 2Mb, and now get 4.5Mb - perhaps soon to be 5.5Mb or even 6Mb. I seem to be lucky, but 3.5-4.0Mb seems typical on such a line. (Talking IP Profiles here for other readers - OneWord don't worry, it is to do with the way BT IPStream works and that is what you get from any ISP if, as you have found, "no one like Talk Talk, Tiscali, Bull Dog, Be" is available). On Max the system gives you the best it can, but sometimes the speed falls dramatically during peak times due to loadings on BT (rarely) or your ISP (often) at busy times of day, whereas non-Max is - or was - more consistent.

Don't worry about it until later. Suffice to say, you will almost certainly be able to get ADSL/ADSL Max, and ADSL Max will probably be the best option. (In fact BT are phasing out the old fixed speed products - maybe already have done - and offer fixed-speed Max-technology instead - take 2 paracetamol and move on ).

The important thing is to choose an ISP where the speeds may drop but not so dramatically. Some cater for high downloaders (the Enta re-sellers and a few others), some for lighter users (Newnet that I use, and others). The way such ISPs prevent dramatic drops is different, and your choice should depend on what you intend to use your broadband for.

Welsh (not Welsch) is irrelevant except for the question of the actual area. The technology and suppliers are the same.

So your next step is to tell us what you intend to use your connection for. At the bottom end, browsing and email, sorting out holiday destinations and bookings etc. At the top end, 24/7 or so downloading of films, video tracks, music, P2P, use of YouTube/MySpace/binary newsgroups and so on. Then we can advise you on the suitable UK ISPs.

From there you can look at the Compare page on this site, and also the related forums. (But bear in mind that posters to ISP forums are generally the discontented. Happy people rarely post. So it is a question of comparing the unhappiness levels ). You could also contact ISPs regarding their service to the exchanges you list.

The alternative to the above is cable. In most of the UK so far as I know the only one now is Virgin (Virgin Media cable on these forums) as there have been many mergers. If they are available in the area, or some of it, then higher speeds could be available. Try asking them.

Have you got this far? Congratulations and have a whisky. Feel free to ask for more info .

Edit:- typo



Bob - Newnet Lite, ex Prodigynet. Purple Cloud for domain reg and email.

Edited by RobertoS (Mon 16-Jul-07 22:46:11)

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(deleted) Tue 17-Jul-07 05:59:24
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I live within 30 miles of Talgarth and receive an excellent ADSL Max (up to 8Mbps) connection with Newnet.

I presume that your new job is NHS-related, as that & agriculture are about the only 'industries' in the Talgarth area?
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(deleted) Tue 17-Jul-07 08:35:39
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The alternative to the above is cable. In most of the UK so far as I know the only one now is Virgin (Virgin Media cable on these forums) as there have been many mergers. If they are available in the area, or some of it, then higher speeds could be available. Try asking them.



According to samknows, cable is not available http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange.php?ecode=SWTAF


Yet according to the OP's profile, he is on a 10 Mb BlueYonder cable connection
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(deleted) Tue 17-Jul-07 08:38:25
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I believe he's moving from a cable area, to Talgarth.
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