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all Tony is saying is they DO throttle

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Precisely.

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But when a poster asks for a non-throttling ISP it is not fair to the poster for Enta re-sellers, never mind users, to deny the Enta ALT (throttle).

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Yet again - precisely.

Many people undoubtedly find the Entanet PR fanboys extremely tiresome with their constant barrage trying to deny Entanet throttle or trying to cover up this fact with "double talk" - which is misleading people that come to TBB for factual advice.

Entanet do throttle their users - you can call it an "anti loss tool", a dextrom nurderlator or even an apple tree - but none of the fancy market speak changes the fact that Entanet throttle users connections.

That was me, I forgot to sign in. I am not a heavy user, but I just think Entanet resellers give a good deal. I do agree with Tony that it is some sort of throttle and I do think that something this should be put on the resellers website. ADSL24 website says no throttling, It was only because I been on these forums that I knew the score.

As I said the ALT don't affect me as I would never get to 4Mbits anyway, but I can see that people could get annoyed if they joined a Entanet reseller, thinking they will get their full speed all the time.

I agree it can not happen and there must be some system in place, BT charges a flaming fortune and at the end of the day ISp's got to make money.

Newnet price structure deters me and I am not a heavy user. The problem is Newnet prices are not that good.

I agree, I am not disagreeing with you, but Entanet throttling is a lot better than others, at least I can use their service 24 hours a day for anything I want, try doing that with other ISp's who throttle and block ports.


I would not touch LLU with a barge pole, and a lot of people would not be able to get a LLU service anyway,, there are still a lot of exchanges out there that is not LLU enabled and I doubt ever will be.

I have seen too many horror stories of people on LLU. As much as I hate BT, I am staying on their system

So who are you with?

I have never been married and no I won't be getting married either, I am not that silly. It is only a bit of paper anyway, means nothing.

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Newnet price structure deters heavy users as you say. For the non-heavy users they are cheaper and better than Enta because by not having the heavy users they do not need to throttle, or lose packets! My IP Profile is 4500, my speeds vary from 4200 best to 3800/3900 typical to 3200 minimum. I doubt if Enta would give me that - at 50% higher price.

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Those speeds aren't great for a 4500 profile, is it just that your exchange is congested or something else? I have a 7150 profile and my typical speed on Entanet is around 6850. Last night I was doing a download that dipped to about 4500 at the height of the 10pm spike but that was only for a few minutes and it climbed steadily to about 6500 by the time it finished at about 10:30.

Regards,
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I will leave it up to the readers of TBB to decide whether people that visit TBB are entitled to know the facts about ISPs

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I quite agree so will you now include reference to your beloved Sky's FUP at http://www.sky.com/portal/site/skycom/usage

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I quite agree so will you now include reference to your beloved Sky's FUP at http://www.sky.com/portal/site/skycom/usage

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Erm what's in a FUP is irrelevant. Its only when they are invoked that you need to take any notice of them.

Fact is that SKY don't throttle customers on their LLU service. They never have done to my knowledge.

Anyway this isn't a theoretical discussion about SKY - its a factual one about whether or not ADSL24 throttle. And from what I've read it seems they do.

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I would not touch LLU with a barge pole, and a lot of people would not be able to get a LLU service anyway,, there are still a lot of exchanges out there that is not LLU enabled and I doubt ever will be.

I have seen too many horror stories of people on LLU. As much as I hate BT, I am staying on their system

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That's a real shame as there are decent LLU providers out there. I've been with one for over 18 months now and its been a breath of fresh air to have enjoyed a clean, genuinely unshaped and unlimited service for less than

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Those speeds aren't great for a 4500 profile, is it just that your exchange is congested or something else?

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I'd say they were pretty good. My profile is 2500 and my range, day or night, is 700 to 1500 with the odd burst in the small hours to 2000 or so. I'm with IDNet, who've spoken to BT and say it's exchange congestion.