Be will have or be getting WBC for handling the O2 non-LLU customers anyway, won't they ?

In reply to a post by yarwell:

Be will have or be getting WBC for handling the O2 non-LLU customers anyway, won't they ?

I had thought of that the other way round, as in I wondered what O2 would do, but your specific point hadn't occurred to me in this context. Obviously it had in the past.

In fact we don't know how the O2 Access customers are provisioned at the moment. IPStream as at first, or partially/fully transferred to IPSC.

Neither do we know whether they will be going WBC or WBMC. I suppose WBC would make sense if they see Access as a long-term product, but WBMC I would think may be what they are intending. Depends on the customer base I suppose, and again we have no breakdown between LLU and Access.

I don't expect anything more detailed than that blog will be forthcoming for some time. Or maybe that was a feeler to see what reactions were obtained via the blog and from the survey, to help decide on policy.

Thanks for all the feedback.

I'm with Be at the moment and the service has been excellent so really I don't want to switch and would take FTTC from Be tomorrow if they offered it. The problem is it seems unlikely to be anytime soon.

But I think I'm willing to try a change. A&A seems appealing due to the flexibility on bandwidth but I need to get a better idea of how much is being used during peak times as it could get expensive.

I believe there is work on GEA handover happening now

In reply to a post by nredwood:

I believe there is work on GEA handover happening now

That's good. Maybe he means both that & WBC/WBMC are on the way, with WBC/WBMC first.

Will the Be Landline product make it easier for them to deliver FTTC?

No, the process would be the same as they seem to use WLR.

Matt

In reply to a post by reddev86:

Yeah, all FTTC connections are based on BT Wholesale, so there is no avoiding them. To get LLU, or in the case of FTTC, SLU (Sub loop unbundling) is very unlikely, as each provider would need their own cabinets everywhere just like BT, instead of just unbundling the central exchange.

Having said that, I've had no problems with my speed so far even though its BT backhaul, i usually get around 90-95% of my BRAS profile (which is another reason people usually want to avoid BTW)

AAISP - The ISP i chose and so far their service is 11 out of 10, they are expensive, especially for peak time usage, but worth it.

Eclipse - their products are aimed at business users, and so maybe that's why they seem uncompetitive.

BT Infinity - Avoid like the plague, unless you plan on using less than 100GB a month, don't mind traffic shaping, and really want an amazing Home Hub (sarcasm).

Xilo/Vivaciti - I have no personal experience of, so can't comment.

IDNet - I know someone with them on FTTC, and hes ecstatic with the service so far, though its only been 2 weeks, but so far so good.

BE(possibly), Talktalk, Sky, and PlusNet will be offering FTTC in the future, but again, they'll all be based on BT Wholesale.

Only nubs get caught in the shaping though. BT is generally the cheapest overall.

Well I've decided to go with AAISP.

I'm having some trouble working out how to best get it installed considering where the master socket is but I think i've found a solution.

I'll report back once it's up and running.

In reply to a post by reddev86:

Yeah, all FTTC connections are based on BT Wholesale, so there is no avoiding them. To get LLU, or in the case of FTTC, SLU (Sub loop unbundling) is very unlikely, as each provider would need their own cabinets everywhere just like BT, instead of just unbundling the central exchange.

Having said that, I've had no problems with my speed so far even though its BT backhaul, i usually get around 90-95% of my BRAS profile (which is another reason people usually want to avoid BTW)

AAISP - The ISP i chose and so far their service is 11 out of 10, they are expensive, especially for peak time usage, but worth it.

Eclipse - their products are aimed at business users, and so maybe that's why they seem uncompetitive.

BT Infinity - Avoid like the plague, unless you plan on using less than 100GB a month, don't mind traffic shaping, and really want an amazing Home Hub (sarcasm).

Xilo/Vivaciti - I have no personal experience of, so can't comment.

IDNet - I know someone with them on FTTC, and hes ecstatic with the service so far, though its only been 2 weeks, but so far so good.

BE(possibly), Talktalk, Sky, and PlusNet will be offering FTTC in the future, but again, they'll all be based on BT Wholesale.

BT have apparently upped their download limits to 300GB for FTTC.

Details taken from BT Forum here --> http://bit.ly/alj0j9

Hi Everyone

I�d like to clarify a couple of points that have been raised to me via private message.

The increase to the heavy user threshold from 100GB to 300GB is already in place now.

There is no change to the usage allowance for BT Total Broadband Option 1 customers � this remains as 10GB. Additional usage for BT Total Broadband Option 1 customers will also be charged at 5GB for £5 (instead of 1GB for £1). If you find that you are likely to incur additional use charges, it may be worthwhile reviewing which broadband option you are on, details of the different monthly usage allowances can be found here. Or if you want to upgrade your broadband package you can find more information here.

Thx

Kerry