I've just discovered that I can also download my usage stats for each month in a csv file, I wonder how long that's been there?

Broken down by day and peak/off peak, eg:

Date,Rate,Download,Upload
2011-01-01,FREE,0.75,0.06
2011-01-02,OFF PEAK,0.08,0.04
2011-01-02,PEAK,0.44,0.03
2011-01-03,OFF PEAK,0.01,0.0
2011-01-03,PEAK,0.69,0.04
2011-01-04,OFF PEAK,0.29,0.03
2011-01-04,PEAK,0.28,0.03
2011-01-05,OFF PEAK,0.18,0.02
2011-01-05,PEAK,0.77,0.12
.
.
.

Scope for some playing there

What's that first line Bill? "FREE".

New Year's Day.

Christmas and Boxing day were free as well, IDNet have done that for the last few years.

They used to have the whole Christmas week free, but a few people took excessive advantage of it and spoiled it for everyone else

With all due respect robertos I am researching now!! talk talk simply doesnt provide what I want, trying to find a new isp is almost impossible online as they all rate quite badly wherever you look cos theres always someone with a bad experience !! on BE website I have tried all week to check speed (you need to do this before you order) all I get is this service is currently unavailable and cant continue even if I wanted to!! idnet looks good to me nad i'm hankering for some xboxlive action!!!

That almost sounds as though Be isn't available at your exchange, or is fully taken up. Can you post a link to what samknows says about the exchange, as there may be other good options.

I agree IDNet is good, but no BT Wholesale ISP can really compete with a good LLU. Period .

LLU operator presence
What is this?
AOL: Not available
O2 / Be: Not available
C&W / Bulldog: Enabled
Edge Telecom: Not available
Entanet: Not available
Lumison: Not available
NewNet: Not available
Node4: Not available
Orange: Enabled as of 12/03/2010
Pipex: Not available
Sky / Easynet: Enabled as of 07/01/2008
Smallworld: Not available
TalkTalk (CPW): Enabled
Tiscali: Not available
Tiscali TV: Not available
WB Internet: Not available
Zen Internet: Not available

BT Wholesale informationADSL status: Enabled as of 30/07/2003
ADSL Max status: Enabled as of 31/03/2006
SDSL status: Not available
21CN WBC status: Not available
FTTC status: Not available

In reply to a post by blacky:

With all due respect robertos I am researching now!! talk talk simply doesnt provide what I want, trying to find a new isp is almost impossible online as they all rate quite badly wherever you look cos theres always someone with a bad experience !! on BE website I have tried all week to check speed (you need to do this before you order) all I get is this service is currently unavailable and cant continue even if I wanted to!! idnet looks good to me nad i'm hankering for some xboxlive action!!!

I got that the other day as well but I know my exchange wasn't enabled I was just hoping to find an idea of a date. Use samknows to find out if anybody has unbundled your exchange

I have literally just signed up with sky can't comment on them as I only just requested it. However at £7.50 a month and with 14days I can cancel within if I am not happpy with the connections speeds etc. We have normally a 10gb usage and I was struggling to find descent price from non LLU options. Somebody posted a link on my wanting to leave f2s thread. Which was looking like £12 a month for 10gb usage. IDnet caught me out initially as when I searched through this
site it was telling me I would have 12Gb download but I later twitted that only 2Gb could be peak I was so used to unlimited off peak with f2s I didn't realise some limit off peak.

Yep, Be isn't present at the exchange, so you can't have it anyway.

There are three LLU things you can look at, all available from both xilo/uno and vivaciti.

Xilo/uno - either of the Pro 16 packages. Note the more expensive one is ex vat. I forget the difference between the two, (I expect the expensive one is the prioritised Office product), but they are provided using the C & W wholesale products.

The vivaciti equivalent is the "LLU Unlimited (C & W)".

The second and third are not shown on xilo/uno website, you need to ring up for details. The equivalent vivaciti ones are Surfwise Variety and Surfwise Complete.

The difference between Variety and Complete is that Complete is full LLU, where the phone line goes as well, like TalkTalk LLU. Variety is partial LLU, which to me is far preferable.

Those run on TalkTalk Business Wholesale. Not subject to TalkTalk traffic management! Think of TT as being the BT Total Broadband using BT Wholesale, and the xilo/uno and vivaciti as being the IDNet style using TT Business Wholesale.

Hope that helps. As already agreed, I think, IDNet is one of the best on BT Wholesale, but LLU has to beat them if there is the slightest hint of instability on your line.

If you can find and post your line stats we could give you reliable speed estimates, and also see if there is a problem with your line even now. See here for help.

Can't thank you enough for this mate!! here are router stats, my speeds and stuff are fine (better then ever) I just cant get on x box live from time to time and now for over a week, but if I go to someone elses house it works with no probs thats why i need to leave talk talk (that and the attitude i got when i called them!!) sorry cant get the spaces right when i post!!!

Port Status TxPkts RxPkts Collisions Tx B/s Rx B/s Up Time
WAN PPPoA 454550 851263 0 343 1 4871 21:48:12
LAN 10M/100M 3634548 1864949 0 2752 401 91:10:46
WLAN 11M/54M 105326 92787 0 258 48 91:10:36


ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 8189 kbps 921 kbps
Line Attenuation 20 db 5.5 db
Noise Margin 17 db 5 db