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Standard User jchamier
(knowledge is power) Mon 22-Aug-11 20:57:41
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Re: Choosing an ISP


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In reply to a post by nonBEliever:
Fair enough now why do some users also experience increased latency at peak times?


You missed a SOME in the above.

In reply to a post by nonBEliever:
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share-large/0a871...


That is my link. Please don't post it where you cannot back up any of the information.

James - be* pro - on THFB - sync about 17.2mbps - BQM

Edited by jchamier (Mon 22-Aug-11 20:58:29)

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 22-Aug-11 21:03:44
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Granted should had stated SOME users. Which is normally the case with things like this.

Your link was posted as secondary evidence of the situation to the other link i also posted.

I also apologise to you if you did not wish it posted, i only did so as you shared it earlier today on these forums and i thought you would be ok with it being posted again to show users thinking of BE what has been happening to SOME users at peak times.

I am sorry if you considered that wrong. Please accept my apology on that matter.
Standard User adebov
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 22-Aug-11 21:20:18
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In reply to a post by nonBEliever:
Fair enough now why do users also experience increased latency at peak times?

For the same reason a car engine uses less fuel going downhill (or with fewer people on board)....It has less work to do.
You try and route millions of requests a second and see how you cope wink

Ade

ADSL2+ with BE
DL Sync around 4.8Mbps
UL Sync 1088kbps

DG834GT with DGTeam firmware


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Standard User NilSatisOptimum
(member) Mon 22-Aug-11 21:33:04
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Blimey SMBRiggs, Do you normally stir a hornets� nest up with such innocence.

My views are my experiences.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 22-Aug-11 21:35:14
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In reply to a post by nonBEliever:
Fair enough now why do users also experience increased latency at peak times?

For the same reason a car engine uses less fuel going downhill (or with fewer people on board)....It has less work to do.
You try and route millions of requests a second and see how you cope wink


Other links looking at the site i posted appear to do fine.
Standard User adebov
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 22-Aug-11 21:47:24
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Err....and?
As has been stated, even the latency issue at BE doesn't affect all users, so I'm hardly surprised.

Ade

ADSL2+ with BE
DL Sync around 4.8Mbps
UL Sync 1088kbps

DG834GT with DGTeam firmware
Administrator seb
(founder) Mon 22-Aug-11 21:48:12
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In reply to a post by nonBEliever:
Fair enough now why do users also experience increased latency at peak times?

EDIT:
Ignoring the site i mentioned........
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share-large/0a871...

8pm here comes the latency increases eh?


That may or may not be related.. my point was that pinging routers on the route isn't an answer, and is only useful when you have other information, and often when you see latency get worse for every subsequent hop, rather than the line itself.

Looking at the BQM graphs, I do see a pattern within BE/O2 users of regular latency spikes.. this does appear on other graphs but I think a bit less (I was wondering if it might be an issue our side but I haven't seen anything to suggest it is).. We have made changes recently to upgrade some routers to get more capacity in etc so something like that sometimes can cause issues due to changes in software etc.. any info on when it starts would be helpful..

Also the pattern I see isn't an 8pm one.. it's happening or not mostly..

seb

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Administrator seb
(founder) Mon 22-Aug-11 21:49:27
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In reply to a post by nonBEliever:
In reply to a post by nredwood:
I consider your comments libellous and harrassment and ask you therefore to desist immediately


I consider your threats, like your facts and LIES to people about congestion, hot air.


I consider you both need to take a chill pill guys....

seb

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Standard User jchamier
(knowledge is power) Mon 22-Aug-11 21:50:47
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Also the pattern I see isn't an 8pm one.. it's happening or not mostly..


If you mean the "comb" type constant yellow lines, this is an artifact of the TG585v7 router (and maybe other thomson routers) and goes away if I use my draytek's built in ADSL modem. But the draytek is less stable on my line.

James - be* pro - on THFB - sync about 17.2mbps - BQM
Administrator seb
(founder) Mon 22-Aug-11 21:56:51
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If you mean the "comb" type constant yellow lines, this is an artifact of the TG585v7 router (and maybe other thomson routers) and goes away if I use my draytek's built in ADSL modem. But the draytek is less stable on my line.


Ah.. yes.. that is what I was seeing.. We were talking to Adrian K. about coding to detect this kind of pattern (among others).

seb

Sebastien Lahtinen
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