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Yes, sorry, I forgot about the Central Pluses.

But as the point was about the customer support capability on a 1gig pipe, for which I was requesting typical customer supported by a BT Central, I feel that although you are correct you are being a little pedantic by not just pointing out my mistake. Post edited .

Do you happen to have a view on how many customers a 1gig pipe might support in live running, and how that compares with 622Mbps Centrals? Assuming the feeders (whatever they are called) to the Central are adequate?

In reply to a post by RandomJointer:

BT Retail wouldn't load more than Zen or IDNet onto a Central.

BT Retail never used 622 BT Centrals or indeed any Central. They used Central Plus which used BT's monster backbone to route directly to the internet rather than bouncing via the ISP. In fact if you are in the South of England, BT Retail was far better for pings than Zen who routed to London via Manchester.

If the OP is simply interested in gaming and pings, BT may be worth looking at. I would not advise using BE for gaming as they appeal to heavy downloaders and apparently suffer from regular ping spikes as the network creaks in various locations at various times.

It may be that as Telefonica lose customers month after month they also reduce capacity to compensate and the problems may increase. Be is good for heavy p2p use, I would caution against listening to posters recommending Be for gaming.

Quoted for truth, unlike that of BE usergroup members and BE fans that like to insult but don't like when it is chucked back.

Pretty easy for the OP to decide which to trust based on your very logical and sensible post RandomJointer

People should take anything a few die hards defending the BE product with more than a grain of salt. BE has has congestion issues (See the BE forum) and suffers horrid pings for months on end during peak times.

Terrible choice for gaming or in general at this time, posts about their issues not only on this site but others all over the net, including BEs own forums which they keep private in the vain hope people sign up and then find out how bad they are. Sounds like they dont have much bandwidth to go round either based on the earlier *ehhmm* maths used.

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

In reply to a post by RandomJointer:

BT Retail wouldn't load more than Zen or IDNet onto a Central.

BT Retail never used 622 BT Centrals or indeed any Central. They used Central Plus which used BT's monster backbone to route directly to the internet rather than bouncing via the ISP. In fact if you are in the South of England, BT Retail was far better for pings than Zen who routed to London via Manchester.

If the OP is simply interested in gaming and pings, BT may be worth looking at. I would not advise using BE for gaming as they appeal to heavy downloaders and apparently suffer from regular ping spikes as the network creaks in various locations at various times.

It may be that as Telefonica lose customers month after month they also reduce capacity to compensate and the problems may increase. Be is good for heavy p2p use, I would caution against listening to posters recommending Be for gaming.

Quoted for truth, unlike that of BE usergroup members and BE fans that like to insult but don't like when it is chucked back.

Pretty easy for the OP to decide which to trust based on your very logical and sensible post RandomJointer

RJ's wages are paid by BT. As he's never used BE, his opinion is obviously biased.

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

RJ's wages are paid by BT. As he's never used BE, his opinion is obviously biased.

In fairness, I've had many dealings with him in Freechat, and on the whole he tends to be objective and unbiased.

/why does my nose grow when I say things like that?

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

In reply to a post by RandomJointer:

BT Retail wouldn't load more than Zen or IDNet onto a Central.

BT Retail never used 622 BT Centrals or indeed any Central. They used Central Plus which used BT's monster backbone to route directly to the internet rather than bouncing via the ISP. In fact if you are in the South of England, BT Retail was far better for pings than Zen who routed to London via Manchester.

If the OP is simply interested in gaming and pings, BT may be worth looking at. I would not advise using BE for gaming as they appeal to heavy downloaders and apparently suffer from regular ping spikes as the network creaks in various locations at various times.

It may be that as Telefonica lose customers month after month they also reduce capacity to compensate and the problems may increase. Be is good for heavy p2p use, I would caution against listening to posters recommending Be for gaming.

Quoted for truth, unlike that of BE usergroup members and BE fans that like to insult but don't like when it is chucked back.

Pretty easy for the OP to decide which to trust based on your very logical and sensible post RandomJointer

RJ's wages are paid by BT. As he's never used BE, his opinion is obviously biased.

Are you and BE supporters going to now try to discredit honest information and deny what another non-anon poster has stated, particularly the bit ive highlighted in bold?

Ill be happy to point to various links for the OP to decide for themself if that statement is true or not.

Horrible service at this time for anyone ping dependant, especially during peak hours.

Incorrect, Batty, I have been a be punter in the past.

I would not recommend Be over BT for gaming as Be is showing sporadic localised slowdowns and ping spikes according to posts in their forum. However Be are ideal for heavy p2p use.

I would not however recommend BT for p2p.

Edited by deleted (Sun 13-Nov-11 15:59:52)

In reply to a post by RandomJointer:

Incorrect, Batty, I have been a be punter in the past

Your wages are paid by BT as I said. I doubt you left BE due to any network problems?

I would advise against taking ISP advice from Cammy as he has next to no broadband technical knowledge and is sticking his oar in simply because he doesn't like my politics in the Free Chat forum.

I would advise not make a choice of a provider based on some dude you don't know not liking another dude you don't know.

The trick is to decipher the technical from the pincer movement of fans and foes of ISPs. This can probably be best achieved by noting reports and trends in the ISP individual forums and balancing that against their overall customer numbers.

Edited by deleted (Sun 13-Nov-11 16:11:24)

In reply to a post by RandomJointer:

according to posts in their forum.

You don't want to believe stuff written by anonymous posters with a grudge, or incompetent kids with problems they are unable to cope with.

Indeed, or fans that patrol the forums.