In reply to a post by RandomJointer:

Indeed, or fans that patrol the forums.

Much better to listen to independent opinion like mine for example.

Or that of a happy BE customer

"But you are part of the usergroup "and or" fanboy/girl, your view is biased / tainted".
Thought I may as well get that in there before Mr. Anonymous

Tom - www.mouselike.org

In reply to a post by drsox:

"But you are part of the usergroup "and or" fanboy/girl, your view is biased / tainted".
Thought I may as well get that in there before Mr. Anonymous

Tom - www.mouselike.org

I would have thought a member of the Usergroup is infinitely more reliable than some Anon.

It depends, I can see how people get the impression that the usergroup would be biased and I am sure some ISPs have fans or usergroup who are.

However if BE need to be called on something I certainly won't hold back But that won't be enough I am sure and the current Anonymous crusade will continue.

Tom - www.mouselike.org

Opinion is something that prospective gamers should be listening to. Using their skill and judgement to wade through fans and foes posts.

Curiously none of the fans and fans prescribed 'independent' opinions have mentioned that the Be Network Status page has reported for more than a month...

"Due to a major network issue, you may experience some packet loss and increased latency in the evening roughly between 6 PM and midnight. "

https://avatar.bethere.co.uk/networkStatusScreenForF...

So, as someone who has no interest in Be either way anymore, I would suggest avoiding Be for gaming as latency is pings and gamers want low pings. However, do not let latency issues put you off signing up if you want to use heavy p2p. Be is superb for p2p users but gamers should exercise extreme caution when wading through the posts and coming to a decision.

Edited by deleted (Sun 13-Nov-11 19:55:25)

In reply to a post by RandomJointer:

I would advise against taking ISP advice from Cammy as he has next to no broadband technical knowledge and is sticking his oar in simply because he doesn't like my politics in the Free Chat forum.

I would advise not make a choice of a provider based on some dude you don't know not liking another dude you don't know.

The trick is to decipher the technical from the pincer movement of fans and foes of ISPs. This can probably be best achieved by noting reports and trends in the ISP individual forums and balancing that against their overall customer numbers.

Now that's just untrue. Next to no BB technical knowledge? Depends on the subject. I tend to avoid the questions I can't answer, or the ones I have answered repeatedly over the years. People should use the search function for starters to save themselves the bother of asking.

I was having a tounge in cheek post, nothing more. Your politics in FC is, as best, fantasy. Let's be honest. I said nothing of your abilities with regards BB.

With regards ISPs, I recommend Plusnet because my experiences of them are generally fine. Occasionally there's a niggle, but that's life. You don't see me wading through non-Plusnet ISP forum sections flaming or trolling, unlike other members. That's because I'm not a fanboy, nor a flamer.

I disagree on the trends aspect as the forums are there for tales of woe. Rarely do people turn up and sing the praises of the ISP. Some moan about their ISP for months, which does nothing for the opinion basis. One has to balance the context of the problem (is the user a newbie / are they moaning a lot), against the problem itself, gauge the reaction from ISP support, if at all, and throw in the price to realise value.

Customer numbers are no way of making the judgement either. That's a BT way of getting customers. If all the little ISPs were worse because they are smaller, we would have a monopoly and everyone would be happy ( ).

Edited by camieabz (Sun 13-Nov-11 20:05:59)

I was having a tounge in cheek pord, nothing more. Your politics in FC is, as best, fantasy. Let's be honest. I said nothing of your abilities with regards BB.

Thanks for confirming that you have no advice to offer the OP, cammy and were just having a 'pord' at me because I do not like the Tories. In short, you admit you are simply trolling. Something that does not help the OP and is against the forum rules.

I would expect the Mods to be along shortly to sanction your admitted 'pording/trolling' and wish you an enjoyable time on your forum 'holiday'

I would advise the OP to disregard cammy's contribution on broadband issues that are based on politics rather than the pros and cons of particular isps and feel free to join us in the Free Chat forum if you want to talk politics.

However I would disagree on the important issue of customer numbers. Ten negative posts from a tiny few thousand provider against ten negative posts from a multimillion provider is something to consider when coming to a decision.

Edited by deleted (Sun 13-Nov-11 20:17:04)

Well I could recommend Plusnet to the OP, but it seems the best decision has been made. As to the rest of your post, I'll not take what started as a bit of humour into what you seem to want.

If the OP want's Plusnet specific advice, I suggest a post in the Plusnet section, where's there's less chance of attitudes such as yours.