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(deleted) Wed 12-Jun-13 16:17:43
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Re: Orange / EE to TalkTalk?


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Afternoon all,

I just wanted to thank you all for your input, your advice has been invaluable. Im now getting a steady 5Mbps into NTE5 which im happy with as its the best i can get, regardless of ISP!

Im now looking at moving the router back up to the extension socket where it was originally, however im planning on using an ADSL Extension Kit as I want to achieve the best possible speeds. I already have an ADSL kit, but ideally wanted a 'dual' unfiltered faceplate for it. The reason for this is because the the point where the ADSL extension wlll run is also a telephone socket (existing wiring), so I would like to have a faceplate to accommodate both.

I have found the following but unfortunately its a filtered faceplate therefore only having one connection at the back, but as my ADSL signal would already be filtered so id like to know if i can get an unfiltered one?

Do they even exist?

Cheers
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 12-Jun-13 16:51:45
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Re: Orange / EE to TalkTalk?


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Have you checked there isn't an unfiltered extension connector on the back of your "2000" filtered faceplate on the master? If there is, you just need to wire the extension to that.

If there isn't, maybe Wickes do one? Certainly the ADSL Nation NTE5 filtered faceplates do.

Whatever you do, make sure you get a cheapish IDC/Krone tool as well, as it's the only good way to connect wires to these things.

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(deleted) Wed 12-Jun-13 18:06:12
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Take a look at the two circuit diagrams about 3/4s way down the page.

The ADSL part is UNFILTERED as shown by the straight-through lines, therefore continues to carry the phone audio etc.

So you can apparently simply extend your apparent "ADSL" line, fitting a suitable "splitter" at the far end as usual, whether that is a plug-in splitter or a dual faceplate on a surface box.

You may be able to use your existing phone extension, as long as it is connected to the unfiltered incoming line from BT.


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(deleted) Wed 12-Jun-13 22:17:47
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Re: Orange / EE to TalkTalk?


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Hi,

many thanks for your replies. Please excuse my ignorance but I don't quite understand either post, and I thnk it's down to me not being clear enough. - or my limited knowledge!!

I currently have an adsl kit which includes a 2000 faceplate with dual sockets. In this kit I also have a 30m twisted pair (looks cylindrical like cat5) which I will run in parallel with my existing extension wiring (by using the rj45 connected to the front of the faceplate). The kit also includes a 65mm x 65mm adsl (rj11) wall mounted face plate and back box. The adsl 2000 faceplate has the standard 2,3 and 5 connections behind it to connect any extension wiring which is already filtered.

Now my dilemma is that I could have a full size (unfiltered) telephone extension faceplate next to a wall mounted 65mm adsl extension, but ideally I'd like a faceplate that combines the 2, which would have 5 connections behind it, 3 for the telephone wiring, and then 2 for the adsl extension. As the phone line has already been filtered, I wouldn't need this doing again, but the faceplate that I linked to looks like exactly what I want, but only has 3 connections on the back - so I could only either connect the phone wiring, or the adsl wiring.

Is that any clearer, or am I completely missing your point in your posts??

Please accept my apologies if I have completely missed the point!!

Feel free to put me right!!

Cheers,

Paul

P.S. I already have a krone tool
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 12-Jun-13 23:58:35
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My post is about:-

XTE-2005 to replace your current ADSL2000 filtered faceplate at your master socket. As well as the filtered output on the back of that to feed an extension socket, there is also an unfiltered set of connectors to feed ADSL+Phone to an extension socket.

All you have to do is disconnect your existing extension wire from the back of the ADSL2000 faceplate, (which you keep as a spare), and connect that extension cable to the A/B terminals that are on the back of the XTE-2005 instead of the normal 2,3,5. Ignore the wire on the existing T3, just curl it neatly out of the way.

You can then fit the extension filtered faceplate from Wickes at the extension end, or alternatively the similar XTF-68 or XTF-85 from ADSL Nation, to replace your existing extension faceplate.

Job done with no additional wires or sockets.
Edit - typos.

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Edited by RobertoS (Thu 13-Jun-13 00:01:26)

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(deleted) Sat 22-Jun-13 12:34:48
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Re: Orange / EE to TalkTalk?


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Sorry for the late reply but have been to the coast for a week.

Thanks for your reply. I may be wrong here but I thought an adsl 2000 extension is designed to give optimum speeds (similar to the test / master socket) at the extension socket, and this was due to the fact that the adsl signal is filtered by the adsl 2000 faceplate at the source?

My understanding of your post is to send an unfiltered connection up to my extension socket, however is that not the same as just using a regular extension and external filter?

Sorry for the basic questions, I just want to fully understand what I do before I do it!

Cheers
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sat 22-Jun-13 13:36:39
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(staff) Sat 22-Jun-13 14:53:58
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Re: Orange / EE to TalkTalk?


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A regular extension and external filter introduces the problems associated with the ring wire.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
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(deleted) Sat 22-Jun-13 23:50:43
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Ok have been doing some diagnosis this eve and when the extension is disconnected I'm getting a sync speed of 6038 when connected to the master socket (not test)

If I connect the extension wiring, and then run the router off the extension, I get a speed of 4072.

So I'm loosing approx 2 mb using the existing extension wiring.

The simplest solution is to move my router downstairs to the master socket and disconnect the extension wiring, but unfortunately I have 4 network points next to the extension box which the router uses to feed the house. I also have a printer that plugs into the USB port of the router so I can use it as a network printer.

What (if any) are the possible locutions to get me the full 6mb sync speed at the extension socket?

Thanks,
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 23-Jun-13 00:14:57
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Step 1, at the master smile.

It might not cure your particular issue, but is still the first thing to do, in order to eliminate it as the cause. It could improve your overall speed even if it doesn't remove the difference between the two sockets. While you have the master socket faceplate off, please write down then post what colour wire is connected to which of each of the numbered terminals on the back of the faceplate, as in the picture the page linked to. It is important that the correct colours are used, and if the wrong ones are in use that could explain the problem.

PS - now you've posted that, I see why you are so keen to get a better feed to the extension smile. Your shouldn't have this issue, and it could very well be the actual wire.

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