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(deleted) Fri 16-Sep-16 08:49:46
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Re: Best provider for gaming (low ping/jitter and stable)


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Based on that I checked Sky and they say they only go up 40mb for that address. I've also check Plusnet but I've read online about them having pings that start low but begin to creep up. Do you know what might cause that or if it's likely to happen with other ISPs?
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(deleted) Fri 16-Sep-16 10:36:52
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That's the pain with sky, they only ever advertised their standard FTTC, you had to phone and ask for Pro....they have launched it as fibre max...maybe call them and ask as where I had it before if I could get 76Mb from Bt then I could get it from all available suppliers at my exchange, my only negative with Sky is their router is rubbish, I even have the new SkyQ router....so whoever you go with be prepared to buy your own router to get best performance out of the line, plusnet do "traffic prioritisation" and I didn't want that in case it got me killed more on FPS lol
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(deleted) Fri 16-Sep-16 11:12:18
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Oh, I didn't realise that was an option. Maybe I'll give them a call or chat online and see what they can do.

My current setup has my VM in modem mode and everything connects to a cheap TP-link router that I installed dd-wrt firmware on. That way I get QoS for my Xbox and it made a huge difference for £20 and an hour or so of my time to set up. So if I can transfer that setup to a new ISP that would be helpful. Do you know if you can setup the sky modem as modem only?


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(staff) Fri 16-Sep-16 12:47:29
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Sky modem is a closed box, and T&C says their router should be used. You can find out the username and password, but breaks T&C, but those who do that just ensure that if reporting a fault they have double checked the fault exists when the Sky Hub is in use.

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(deleted) Fri 16-Sep-16 12:55:35
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No you can't put sky hub in modem mode like VM hub. But there are many options if you google "use own router sky fibre" I used a draytek vigor 130 and Asus AC 68U for the QOS too, also used the BTopenreach modem with my Asus, got it from a well known auction site. Some tp-link work without a modem as are VDSL compatible, but a similar set up can be set up but as stated if you need to call them for support, which is rare to be honest then install the sky hub first.....also for first 10 days leave the sky hub on as DLM will be working to optimize your line, it will be less than 10 days but thats to be on the safe side.
Another thing on FTTC is the 20Mb upload, excellent for gaming. You have to get VM's gamer package to get 20Mb upload.
My only negative is their router is pants and they make it awkward to use a decent router, otherwise I would not use any of the other mainstream providers.
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(isp) Fri 16-Sep-16 13:09:55
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Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Fri 16-Sep-16 13:54:08
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There is no such thing as "modem only" outside of virginmedia. That is a firmware modification they made.

If you intend on using the ISP supplied router...

If you get Sky, do ask for the Sky Q Hub, it is usually a surcharge, but if you intend on using the ISP supplied device it is well worth paying for.

I think your gaming experience would be good with BT and Sky. I have used both and found both to be better than virginmedia for gaming. Damn, even my sky ADSL at 15Mbps was better than my virginmedia connection.

EDIT: To clarify, I am not saying using a modem is not possible, sure you can go out and buy one, but the ISPs do not supply a device capable of being a modem like virginmedia. E.g. BT will not have a "modem only" mode like virginmedia, nor will Sky, or will Talktalk. You would need to go out and purchase a modem such as a HG612 or a router with a build in vdsl2 modem.

Edited by ukhardy07 (Fri 16-Sep-16 19:03:53)

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(deleted) Fri 16-Sep-16 18:03:49
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Whoever the OP moves to [ISP] ping or "latency" depends on 4 main variables speed is not really an important factor for online gaming.
1) The server that is hosting the game needs to be setup correctly
2)There is no such thing as no latency as everything takes time in the case of latency 10ms is for the round trip to and from the server. So about 10-35ms is ok for online gaming.
3)As has been already stated your location and the consistency of your connection matter.
4)These days online gaming is a hit or miss affair due to congestion.

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(deleted) Sat 17-Sep-16 13:38:22
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To be honest if you're hoping a reduced ping will bring an improved gaming experience I feel you're totally wasting your time. Your current ping is totally adequate for online gaming and I doubt you would notice any difference with a reduced level, in fact I would go as far as saying even a higher ping of around 70ms wouldn't feel much different in practice as there are so many other factors involved as stated above.

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Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Sat 17-Sep-16 16:15:56
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Agree with this, 20 to 30ms is a good ping anyway. My VM was considerably worse than this.
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