Infinity is a good service, well as good as any others.

Any reason why BT is not on your list?

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Re your shortlist, it is worthwhile considering Pulse8Broadband, which uses TalkTalk Business Wholesale and possibly run better than TalkTalk Retail. A small company but with a good reputation. Also only a monthly contract.

I remembered having looked at them in the process of comparing but I didn't write it down. I knew there was a reason but I checked again anyway (you never know). Turns out Pulse8 are more expensive than IDNET.

Really, I've just migrated to Pulse8 and they definitely worked out cheaper than either TalkTalk Business or IDNet. The only thing I can see that might change that analysis is the cost of a vDSL router, but you would need that with IDNet anyway.

Taking the monthly contract away from it all - can I ask how so?

For me P8 is £44 a month - £50 migration fee - TTB is £45.54 a month including VAT and £55 migration fee.- so that's £5 difference only

Yes P8 is monthly but the £44 is the only package they seem to do for 80/20 so there would be no price change anyway unless I wanted to drop to 40/10

You also get a lot more features with TTB which may or may not matter to some. This includes a router and stuff.

So where is the saving? am I missing the obvious here? (probably!)

Are you talking about another savings option? Or it is really all about the £41.96 saved over a 2 year period?

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Infinity is a good service, well as good as any others.

Any reason why BT is not on your list?

Price. At 49.99 a month and the initial fees, even with the 125.00 reward card they're not overly competitive. They do better at 55/10 but that's not what I'm looking for.

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I remembered having looked at them in the process of comparing but I didn't write it down. I knew there was a reason but I checked again anyway (you never know). Turns out Pulse8 are more expensive than IDNET.

Really, I've just migrated to Pulse8 and they definitely worked out cheaper than either TalkTalk Business or IDNet. The only thing I can see that might change that analysis is the cost of a vDSL router, but you would need that with IDNet anyway.

Taking the monthly contract away from it all - can I ask how so?

For me P8 is £44 a month - £50 migration fee - TTB is £45.54 a month including VAT and £55 migration fee.- so that's £5 difference only

Yes P8 is monthly but the £44 is the only package they seem to do for 80/20 so there would be no price change anyway unless I wanted to drop to 40/10

You also get a lot more features with TTB which may or may not matter to some. This includes a router and stuff.

So where is the saving? am I missing the obvious here? (probably!)

Are you talking about another savings option? Or it is really all about the £41.96 saved over a 2 year period?

The OP said that he ruled out P8 on cost grounds, but had included TTB and IDNet, both of which do cost more (even if by pennies), so I was just querying why.

P8 has a USP in that they offer fibre on a monthly contract; TTB does offer more, including official weekend support, but ties you into a 24 month contract. Horses for courses.

I certainly wouldn't push one over the other as different people have different priorities and will make their own minds up. Hence you went with TTB, I went with P8 and the OP may well go with another option.

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The OP said that he ruled out P8 on cost grounds, but had included TTB and IDNet, both of which do cost more (even if by pennies), so I was just querying why.

P8 has a USP in that they offer fibre on a monthly contract; TTB does offer more, including official weekend support, but ties you into a 24 month contract. Horses for courses.

I certainly wouldn't push one over the other as different people have different priorities and will make their own minds up. Hence you went with TTB, I went with P8 and the OP may well go with another option.

Quite .

Plus the tech support at Pulse8 take possession of problems. Not an anonymous call centre where you have no idea what is logged for the next agent to misunderstand.

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The OP said that he ruled out P8 on cost grounds, but had included TTB and IDNet, both of which do cost more (even if by pennies), so I was just querying why.

For me and at this point in time, TalkTalk business is significantly cheaper than Pulse8 (£125 + cost of modem over my 18 month comparison period, and 89.89 cashback on top of that). I've corrected the list accordingly when I discovered my calculations for IDNET were based on wrong information, IDNET is not on the list any more.

If possible could we leave Pulse8, IDNET and others that are significantly more expensive out of the equation for now and focus on ISPs that meet all criteria in my list, and offer good value for money at the same time? (Rather than excellent quality for a lot of money)

I would go with TalkTalk Business from your short list, as I think you will get significantly better support from them if you ever need it.

I assume you must be looking at the Simply Fibre package to see those cost savings, which does present a good deal, even when you have added the VAT on and taken into account the not insignificant cost of any calls you might make.

It is worth costing out how much your phone usage might cost you as it may work out more cost effective to take the Complete package which includes landline and mobile calls.

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I would go with TalkTalk Business from your short list [...]

I assume you must be looking at the Simply Fibre package to see those cost savings, which does present a good deal, even when you have added the VAT on and taken into account the not insignificant cost of any calls you might make.

Thanks for your input so far, you've made me double check most of my calculations! I did add VAT, and won't be making any calls.

It's interesting that TalkTalk business gives me a guaranteed minimum download speed of 60-something mbps (and if you don't get that you can leave the contract), but TalkTalk residential give me 40 mbps guaranteed. "Predicted" speeds show the same on both. But let's not dwell on that.

Is it urgent you switch now?

The advertising rules have just changed so now providers are quoting costs including line rental. This has seen the unwanted effect of most suppliers ending their best deals.

Hopefully this is just do they can introduce them again soon and refer back to the current price as being the baseline comparison period, but only time will tell.

TalkTalk apparently have 7 priority levels for traffic on their network, Retail being generally on the lowest. (7 and maybe a couple higher I think).

TalkTalk Business certainly make 1, 2 and 3 available to TT Wholesale customers such as Pulse8. And no doubt for TTB direct customers.