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In reply to a post by therioman:

I don't have that option no - without breaking NDAs

I put those quoting breaking NDAs in the same category as those who use health and safety as a reason not to do something

Well that's your choice, but the reality is some people do sign NDAs as part of getting access to something or services, and it is very common to agree to non-disclosure in commercial settings, so you can think what you like, but it is *very* common and the basic reality of doing business.

In reply to a post by therioman:

Well that's your choice, but the reality is some people do sign NDAs as part of getting access to something or services, and it is very common to agree to non-disclosure in commercial settings, so you can think what you like, but it is *very* common and the basic reality of doing business.

Fully aware of the importance of NDAs in business but also recognise that its easy for someone to make a claim on a free forum and when challenged hide behind some phantom legal scenario.

In reply to a post by dect:

In reply to a post by therioman:

Well that's your choice, but the reality is some people do sign NDAs as part of getting access to something or services, and it is very common to agree to non-disclosure in commercial settings, so you can think what you like, but it is *very* common and the basic reality of doing business.

Fully aware of the importance of NDAs in business but also recognise that its easy for someone to make a claim on a free forum and when challenged hide behind some phantom legal scenario.

Similarly, it's very easy for someone to claim an ISP is doing a bad job on a "free forum" (not sure being paid would make any difference mind)...

However, Zen Wholesale is pretty well known and they have plenty of customers... some advertise that they use it openly, some don't but would tell you if you ask, and some refuse to ever discuss backhaul, carriers, wholesale arrangements etc (some to the point where transit or peering is easy for anyone to deduce but they'll still refuse to acknowledge it)... but that doesn't change whether I could discuss a providers arrangements where an NDA says otherwise.

I do suggest you do a quick google though... some providers quite easy to find because they (or Zen) promote the partnership... if you want to explore it more...

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In reply to a post by therioman:

I don't have that option no - without breaking NDAs

I put those quoting breaking NDAs in the same category as those who use health and safety as a reason not to do something

And GDPR LOL

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The odd disconnections I currently get are usually during the day time.

Perhaps when you next experience this you might reply or DM me - I'd be interested to compare your incident to the logs we have (per second per line) for every circuit we have using them, and see if we see any such issue - if there is something going on I might be able to get someone to take a look - but I don't see that in the data I've got as it stands.

Or I might not.

I signed the Official Secrets Act many years ago.

I noticed that BAe Warton were building Tornado aircraft while I was setting out the site for a new arrival/departure building.

Well chop off my head and stick it on a pole.

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I signed the Official Secrets Act many years ago.

I noticed that BAe Warton were building Tornado aircraft while I was setting out the site for a new arrival/departure building.

Well chop off my head and stick it on a pole.

🤣 there's nowt so queer as folk 😎

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I signed the Official Secrets Act many years ago.

I noticed that BAe Warton were building Tornado aircraft while I was setting out the site for a new arrival/departure building.

Well chop off my head and stick it on a pole.

There’s quite a difference between something in the public domain - like idnet using zen wholesale and being willing to say so, and someone who hasn’t. It isn’t that difficult to deduce what is or isn’t being used. But that doesn’t mean choosing to disclose something you may have agreed not to do so becomes ok.

As I’m sure you’d know had you done anything of that nature. And in this case there are also considerations for not leaving yourself open to suggestion of not complying with those agreements which can be bad for you commercially.

It’s not my right to choose to disclose what commercial relationships someone might use when I’ve agreed to to disclose any information. You’ll likely be aware how broad some agreements are in scope. Again; rightly or wrongly is irrelevant.

May be you can learn from this and not make comments like

In reply to a post by therioman:

That would exclude quite a lot of ISPs

then use the 5th amendment when questioned about it.

If your job really involves your employer having NDAs with ISPs may be less is more

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May be you can learn from this and not make comments like

In reply to a post by therioman:

That would exclude quite a lot of ISPs

then use the 5th amendment when questioned about it.

If your job really involves your employer having NDAs with ISPs may be less is more

I am the employer but let's not worry about your lack of facts here.

Also, I'll keep your tip in mind on the 5th amendment for when I'm suddenly in another dimension, became an American Citizen and somehow had a scenario to use the 5th. I guess you need to read up first on what that actually is and where it applies, but y'know, you be you