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Standard User AND_OR_ELSE
(newbie) Mon 09-Oct-23 11:27:03
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Hi everyone,

I have been on BT's FTTP 900Mbps for 23 months now, It's up in November, 90% of the time it's been fine, however I don't like the price (£66 and goes up by another £6 after November) and the BT company (as a broadband retailer).

I am also willing to drop the speed to 500Mbps but no lower than that, I would like to stay at 900 if I could, but I am open to other options (mostly just for a change in ISPs TBH)

Has anyone got any advice/suggestions for me, please?

Many thanks in advance.
Standard User Michael_Chare
(knowledge is power) Mon 09-Oct-23 15:43:20
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Use one of the price comparison websites to find out about the alternatives. If you are not a very heavy user a lower speed may not make much difference. Generally if you order a lower speed from someone that can also provide higher speeds upgrading is likely to be easier that doing the opposite.

Michael Chare
Standard User sjr
(knowledge is power) Mon 09-Oct-23 17:06:50
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Giganet will do 500Mb for £37 a month on a 12 month contract with no in-contract price rises. Ive nearly completed my first 12 month contract with them and will soon be signing up for another 12 months.


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Standard User PCJM40
(member) Mon 09-Oct-23 17:13:27
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Giganet will do 500Mb for £37 a month on a 12 month contract with no in-contract price rises. Ive nearly completed my first 12 month contract with them and will soon be signing up for another 12 months.
Don't they have something like a £55 setup fee on top of that?
Standard User sjr
(knowledge is power) Mon 09-Oct-23 17:47:09
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Yes they do.
Standard User Kr1s69
(knowledge is power) Mon 09-Oct-23 18:25:25
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I’m going to sign up with talktalk once I can get FTTP.

£45 a month, cash back from top cash back and a pair of eero pro routers.

Kris
Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Tue 10-Oct-23 09:31:39
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Hi everyone,

I have been on BT's FTTP 900Mbps for 23 months now, It's up in November, 90% of the time it's been fine, however I don't like the price (£66 and goes up by another £6 after November) and the BT company (as a broadband retailer).

I am also willing to drop the speed to 500Mbps but no lower than that, I would like to stay at 900 if I could, but I am open to other options (mostly just for a change in ISPs TBH)

Has anyone got any advice/suggestions for me, please?

Many thanks in advance.


Any Alternative network where you are? May get a better deal with them. If not then maybe look at plusnet, I know they still belong to BT, but they are cheaper, as long as you don't need a phone. I think most of the large providers are more or less the same, very little to choose between them.
Do you really need that speed? If you want to save money on your internet then maybe that is the first thing to look at. You say you will drop to 500Mb/s, Unless you have a load of people using the net at the same time, you should find that ample.

Adrian

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Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Tue 10-Oct-23 09:33:54
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I’m going to sign up with talktalk once I can get FTTP.

£45 a month, cash back from top cash back and a pair of eero pro routers.


Really? Think very carefully before you do, even if you do get cashback. Talk Talk is not in the best ways at the moment money wise.

Adrian

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Standard User Kr1s69
(knowledge is power) Tue 10-Oct-23 21:09:13
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I’m following their financial challenges but as it’s via openreach I don’t think there’s a huge issue if they fail. The eero will work with other networks too so remains useful.

If the service is genuinely bad then I’d look to migrate and take the financial hit, however I’ve not heard a lot of complaints about the actual product for a while (customer service is always terrible at most large ISPs)

There’s a chance Nexfibre get here before openreach so Virgin Media are also on my list of options.

Kris
Standard User AND_OR_ELSE
(newbie) Wed 11-Oct-23 09:53:09
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Thanks for the advice so far everyone.

Firstly, I am a single user, I live alone, I do game on my Xbox One X, but very rarely – maybe on average 2 hours a week, I spent most my online time on my PC on YouTube. I use LAN on PC and 5Ghz Wi-Fi only on TV and Mobile.

I used to be with Plusnet for 5 years before BT on VDSL 80 getting a solid 64Mbps sync, and it was always 60Mbps / 21ms day and night, with a constant 0.1 quality rate (A) result on the TBB quality metrics, it's the best you can get is 0.1 (A),

This is latency during up/download. On BT it varies between 0.8 (A) and (D = poor) at various numbers, but the download speed is fine regardless. In 24 months It's dipped twice to 600Mbps and a phone call got it sorted the next day (high radial counts) – so I was thinking about going back to Plusnet to be honest, them or Sky as I have been with them on LLU before Plusnet and they were good.

The 900 speed is great as I am a heavy user @ about 500 GB a month, I can download a couple of 20 GB files in minutes, leaving bandwidth available for other locals to use, that's one good thing about having gigabit speeds.

Now you be wondering then why leave if it works so well?

1. I just don't like being on BT itself, I don't mind Openreach connection (preferably LLU like SKY) since being on BT it's not been as perfect as Plusnet I understand people say it's a rebadged BT, but It's still its own separate company that has to operate as such, and in my experience was better than BT,

2. I don't like their router, its limited, I want to buy and use my own with 3rd party FW like Tomato or DD-WRT, so I can change a lot more stuff. yeah all ISPs routers are gash... but the more common, the more danger of hacking.

3. Price – its expensive compared to some, and obviously if I don't renew or move in the next few weeks I am going to be charged almost £80 a month for this 900Mbps – £55 is what it started at, after 5 months it went up £10, then the following April another £7, and says it will go up another £6 after my contract ends then again in April .. it will almost be be £100 by then!!! lol – I've never seen price rises at this degree on ANY ISP!!

So Talk Talk, I don't know what they are like lately, but they used to be terrible (hence cheapest), but they picked up IF you used their FORUM for help instead of Indian call centres… and their connections got better and more stable (better chipsets in their routers).

I can't get Giganet or Virgin here, annoying it's a block of flats, yet all the houses around the area have access to 3 FTTP products (Openreach, Virgin, Grain) – I can only use Openreach.

I will have a look on price comparison sites, it's more for an ISP that always supplies the 850-930 speed, even though its not guaranteed, they still do it.. Like Plusnet used too – never experienced any congestion on Plusnet.

I'll keep looking,

EDIT1: I see Vodafone are doing 900 for £34 on 24 months, no extra fees? must be [censored] for such a cheap price, bet they pay for les bandwidth than they need! -can anyone on Voda confirm?
thanks to everyone

Edited by AND_OR_ELSE (Wed 11-Oct-23 10:01:00)

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