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Standard User DFScale
(regular) Thu 18-Apr-24 16:55:48
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Re: BT alternatives (due to price) OR only.


[re: danielhyde] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by danielhyde:
You didn't recommend getting a new router, you posted about using one they already had.

Thanks
Dan


I posted about both. Admittedly I only specified researching a router, but if they were already using a router, why would I suggest researching a router other than for a purchase? To what level of detail do you need things to be explained to you?

Edit: For clarity, my questions are rhetoric. You don't need to answer.

Edited by DFScale (Thu 18-Apr-24 16:57:28)

Standard User Xuse
(member) Thu 18-Apr-24 17:46:05
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Re: BT alternatives (due to price) OR only.


[re: aquiss] [link to this post]
 
There are two aspects are two aspects to this. Either or both might be unreasonable, but I'll tell you.

I research things to death, and when I'm buying something to try and find the 'best' rather than what is adequate. To give you an idea of one router I was looking at was the 'ASUS RT-AX88U Pro' currently about £240. Considering I don't even really use Wi-Fi for anything other than the TV and phones, it's probably overkill. I know on your recommended page you have some TP-LINK ones recommended, but some personal bad experiences with their equipment in the past has put me off them, whither warranted *now* or not, I don't know.

I've had two routers in recent years, a fritzbox from Zen (binned it just recently, unfortunately) and an ASUS RT-AC56U (also binned it rather recently). Both worked well enough, but the ASUS had a good UI and at the time I used it could use merlin firmware.

So, I tend to overthink things, and accomplish nothing. Been looking at different routers for days.
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Now the second problem for me. If I do get x router, and start having issues be it disconnects or other potentially frustrating experiences it will have to be determined if it's on my end or on the ISP end. If it's on my end, and the router is the problem, then I've spent however much on a router that I would then have to replace.

Anyway, that's probably more than you asked for.
Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 18-Apr-24 18:17:13
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Re: BT alternatives (due to price) OR only.


[re: Xuse] [link to this post]
 
why do you need an ax88u pro over the rt 56 (baring merlin being discontinued for that model).

What do you need from a router?.

p.s you could have kept the fritzbox and or rt56 and got the new service and then changed router....... but you have done everything back to front


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Standard User Xuse
(member) Thu 18-Apr-24 18:28:07
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Re: BT alternatives (due to price) OR only.


[re: Taras] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by Taras:
why do you need an ax88u pro over the rt 56 (baring merlin being discontinued for that model).

What do you need from a router?.

p.s you could have kept the fritzbox and or rt56 and got the new service and then changed router....... but you have done everything back to front


Yep, I'm a bit daft like that.
Standard User candlerb
(knowledge is power) Fri 19-Apr-24 10:16:57
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Re: BT alternatives (due to price) OR only.


[re: Xuse] [link to this post]
 
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Now the second problem for me. If I do get x router, and start having issues be it disconnects or other potentially frustrating experiences it will have to be determined if it's on my end or on the ISP end. If it's on my end, and the router is the problem, then I've spent however much on a router that I would then have to replace.

But "most expensive" does not necessarily equate to "best" (in that context, "most reliable")

"Most expensive" often means "has the very latest bleeding edge version of wifi chipset", for example. By staying a generation or two behind, not only are you paying less, but you're getting something more stable that has had the bugs shaken out.
Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 19-Apr-24 10:20:32
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But "most expensive" does not necessarily equate to "best" (in that context, "most reliable")

"Most expensive" often means "has the very latest bleeding edge version of wifi chipset", for example. By staying a generation or two behind, not only are you paying less, but you're getting something more stable that has had the bugs shaken out.


or in the case of Asus' ET12 not really getting enough updates and being the elephant in the room compared to the rest of range.
Standard User Xuse
(member) Fri 19-Apr-24 14:47:36
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I basically just need something reliable that can do the full gig. (or higher to be futureproof, but not a requirement) Wifi is an after thought for me. I only need it for the TV downstairs, and mobile device. If not for that I may have just bought an edgerouter x.
Standard User wiggsc00
(learned) Fri 19-Apr-24 15:15:16
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Re: BT alternatives (due to price) OR only.


[re: Xuse] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by Xuse:
I basically just need something reliable that can do the full gig. (or higher to be futureproof, but not a requirement) Wifi is an after thought for me. I only need it for the TV downstairs, and mobile device. If not for that I may have just bought an edgerouter x.

So, you have a TV and a mobile. What is your use case that requires 1Gig connection?

To put it in perspective I have 6 person household (boys all online gaming etc) >30 wireless devices, 2 servers, 4 AP's, VOIP, 3 TV's, CCTV system, 2 inbound VPN's, work VPN all running off an AX92U (running the Gnuton fork of Merlin) which on Zen CF 300 (300 down, 500 up) connection never misses a beat.
an AX88u pro is total overkill.
Standard User Xuse
(member) Fri 19-Apr-24 18:02:46
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The TV and mobiles are not the main use. My son games & streams on twitch. I do a lot of torrenting etc. (both of which are wired)

Edited by Xuse (Fri 19-Apr-24 18:10:04)

Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Sun 21-Apr-24 09:02:43
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Re: BT alternatives (due to price) OR only.


[re: Taras] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by Taras:
why do you need an ax88u pro over the rt 56 (baring merlin being discontinued for that model).

What do you need from a router?.

p.s you could have kept the fritzbox and or rt56 and got the new service and then changed router....... but you have done everything back to front


This is what I don't understand from some people, they pay silly money for a router that they don't need, where a cheaper router will do fine unless they are going to go for over 1Gbit internet. Sure no good going too cheap like the Tenda ones that Amazon sell for £15, certainly not now, would be okay for ADSL I suppose.
But something like the TP-Link Archer C6 at £50 would do for many people, it has a one mesh system, so you can add a mesh system to it if you need to. I have the Archer AX53, but only because it was on offer, I would have gone for the one below otherwise.

I can understand some people who muck around with their routers and have different services running at home may want something flashy, but then I would expect them to make their own and run something like OPNSense.

Adrian

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