In reply to a post by jaba:

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

What I want to achieve is permanent local copies of emails I haven't deleted, plus auto deletion of server-side after say 30 days as per my POP3 setup. TB doesn't seem to be able to do that, unless I haven't yet fully understood the Archiving system. It won't take long to investigate though.

This email managing thing is a bit of a nightmare when you have several PCs and work from different locations.
For your archive what might work for you is ....

A very good suggestion, thanks . The effect is very similar to what I have arrived at as described above, but I may swap to your way once I have thought about it and perhaps done a bit of testing.

In some ways it is better than mine, but it does mean duplicating sub-folder structures and rules on each machine, and changes to these, as POP3 doing the deleting after 30 days - which is exactly the way I run POP3 on the single-machine access basis that I want to get away from - will only fetch from a single InBox as I understand it. (Am I wrong?)

It is worth spending a lot of time setting this up initially to get it working how you want it.

Indeed!

Ah, OK! That gmail.com is a POP3 a/c not a IMAP one as I originally thought.

If you set up an IMAP a/c in TB for a mailbox that you already have as a POP3 a/c does it have a separate folder structure or do they share the same folder structure?

It's totally separate.

I've been experimenting on both machines with IMAP for the same single server account. The old machine still has (now disabled) the original POP3 one as well. Then playing with the archiving I accidentally archived the whole IMAP Inbox, thus emptying it on both machines and the server. Copied it back from the archive to the machine Inbox, which re-instated the server copy and the other machine one, but that triggered the whole lot being treated as new mail and the POP3 account downloaded it all, thus duplicating rather a large number of emails which of course also got distributed to their allotted sub-folders.

Anyway, that's all sorted now, and also as a result I realised the best way, I think, of migrating everything to IMAP without it all appearing as new.

I haven't really got a problem now apart from the migration fiddling, as you can't convert a Thunderbird account from one to the other. The simplest solution looks like being to move all the existing stuff into Local Folders on both machines, set the POP3 accounts to delete everything up to what isn't on that disc at that point in time and let them do that, then kill the POP3s and set up the IMAPs.

A variation on that being to shift it all into Archive folders in Local so that archiving from the live IMAPs goes to the same place. I think that stage comes later though, as having it all in unstructured archives for the recent stuff doesn't appeal. So maybe do that around the first real archive run.

To 12eason:
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NO NEED TO BE OFENSIVE !!! Just because you don't lile POPs ???
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He's unable to reply at the moment, he's taking a short break.

You have to laugh though don't you? He has the gall to make self righteous comments in the Amy Winehouse thread in FC, then come up with a comment like the one in this thread (and other threads before)!! I must admit that I find him hilarious these days - it's always good to have something to really laugh at

I'm still interested in how it would be simple with POP3. Particularly as with regard to the Sent folder. CC'ing ourselves is not acceptable.

Edited by RobertoS (Mon 25-Jul-11 19:57:12)

There is no way using POP3 to keep Sent msgs in sync on diff. clients, cuz all each client does is use SMTP on the server to send its own msgs and just keeps a local copy.

Unless you include yourself in the To:/CC:/BCC: which you don't want to do and even if you did they won't appear in the Sent Items of the other clients.

EDIT: Tho' I suppose you could use a tortuous method of BCC: "[email protected]" and filtering these at all clients to move them to Sent Items.

Edited by XRaySpeX (Mon 25-Jul-11 20:13:58)

Exactly.

But one never know what one doesn't know. Even thine good self and myself.

Edited by RobertoS (Mon 25-Jul-11 20:47:22)

The method that I use is to have a separate email address for my "sent" messages & use automatic "bcc" (available within Thunderbird, but not all email clients will support it) to send all of my outgoing messages to myself.

Additionally, I leave all my emails on the Server for 30 days - for BOTH incoming & outgoing emails. When I send an email I do NOT retain a local copy, but automatically compile a "bcc" copy to myself for send purpose.

Accordingly, my "sent" messages are received by all of my email clients & I use a Script to detect these & transfer them to the Sent Box - hence, I have a copy of ALL of my incoming AND my outgoing messages on ALL PCs!!


(NB:- Many thanks to TrevorSP for suggesting this method so time ago).